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Dutch Electricity Stats

June 23, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

 

Given the Netherland’s plans to phase out coal power, it is appropriate to look at the current generation mix there:

 

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http://energodock.com/netherlands/country-overview

 

Fossil fuels account for 72% of generation, with wind at just 6%.

 

 

This chart neatly sums up the problem with renewables, namely their unreliability:

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For the month-to-date, gas and coal still dominate, with wind/solar contributing less than 5%:

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38 Comments
  1. June 23, 2019 11:39 am

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  2. June 23, 2019 11:40 am

    This is very similar to the Australian figures but with coal regularly taking around 70%+ of the load.

  3. JimW permalink
    June 23, 2019 12:31 pm

    With the Dutch about to turn off Groningen, they will presumably be competing with Germany to take Russian gas and the UK to take Norwegian gas. They will have to otherwise the whole country will be very cold and dark and wet (not just from the sky).
    Utter complete madness from a country usually so sensible.

  4. Stuart Brown permalink
    June 23, 2019 12:36 pm

    No mention of the Borssele reactor? Presumably in the ‘other’ stats, but this thing makes about 3.5TWh per year. It was 46 years old on Thursday (first criticality June 20th 1973).

    At the moment ‘other’ is producing 542MW – just about the output of Borssele (though I don’t know if this is what it is), wind 188MW, coal 319MW, no solar (?). Good job they have gas…

  5. Gamecock permalink
    June 23, 2019 12:43 pm

    You people expecting electricity to be available all the time are the problem.

    [/sarc]

    The march is toward the elimination of centralized power production (with all of the advantages it offers).

    Get your Generac while you still can.

  6. NICHOLAS GREENWOOD permalink
    June 23, 2019 12:59 pm

    I would really like to force feed these stats into the idiotic environmental/climate change lobby. They seem to want to march us back into the Middle Ages because they just don’t have the savvy to understand the wider picture.

    Minds as sharp as razors ; and just as narrow!

    • Edward Bull permalink
      June 23, 2019 6:40 pm

      Looks like the general public is screwed, then. The BBC editorial policy allows no Climate Change (CC) scepticism. Commercial broadcasters are financed by, among others, the smart meter agencies, WWF and energy companies. The BP, Shell and the electric companies have bowed to pressure from CC activists and have learned how to make a profit from green crap, so they’re promoting the CC agenda. Scientists get research grants to further the CC message. Parliament believes in flawed science. Blogs like this don’t reach the Eastenders/Corrie/XFactor/Love Island audience. Brainwashed Joe Public pays up as usual. As many have opined here, it’ll take a crisis of supply to mobilise the public in favour of truth and common sense. The seeds of that crisis are sown. It’s just a matter of time…

      • dave permalink
        June 24, 2019 8:06 am

        “Blogs like this don’t reach the …Love Island audience…”

        Well, I am in that audience sometimes – for a few minutes, at least!

        The programme gets mixed up in my mind with that one about the development of four-year olds.

        Except that the four-year olds have fewer tattoos.

  7. jack broughton permalink
    June 23, 2019 1:13 pm

    I have always liked Holland and respected the Dutch for their solid common sense: however, they have now caught the green-disease like the UK. This only leaves the Norwegians as the last bastion of sense in Europe: they make money whatever happens and are totally energy secure, pity about their winters tho’, too cold for me.

  8. Nickrl permalink
    June 23, 2019 1:23 pm

    Given BritNed ic generally sends 1GW to UK are they unnecessarily doing themselves over on Co2 emissions?

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 24, 2019 12:34 am

      There is a 1070MW coal fired power station right next to the Dutch end of the BritNed. Its advantage is that the port can take the largest ships from anywhere in the world – and it doesn’t pay UK green taxes. In reality, it replaces the would-have-been coal firedKingsnorth power station that was never built at the other end of the line next to the Isle of Grain.

  9. Dennis permalink
    June 23, 2019 5:28 pm

    What is the ‘other’ source of eletricity? It makes up nearly 20% and it’s not mentioned… terrible report…. meaningless

  10. June 23, 2019 5:35 pm

    Fear not, electricity will be sucked out of electric car batteries when needed … speaking of which, if you have a modern mobile device (such as a smartphone) with “fast charging”, which apparently will eliminate the recharging problem of electric cars, … don’t use it, because it will shorten the battery life, stick to slow charging.

    There is no incentive to make long-lived batteries, because that would decrease the rate of sales, and the useless media fails entirely to ask questions about it. As long as you are Saving The Planet by an approved method who cares how often you have to replace batteries.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      June 23, 2019 5:42 pm

      Not really. If I currently do not sell any batteries, I have a huge incentive to make one that will sell. That’s why seriius competition almost always comes from new entrants and why incumbents do their damnedest to stop the new entrants – step forward the CBI supporting the EU.

  11. June 23, 2019 6:41 pm

    Does “Other” really mean “Nuclear”?

  12. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 23, 2019 9:45 pm

    BBC’s Top Gear was an advert for the Telsa 3 today.

    Nearly £40k for the entry level and £50k for the one they showed off – hardly a cheap car for the people, or that environmentally friendly – especially the fast version – I suspect.

    They seem to think everyone is currently buying high spec. Audis and VWs, so the price is equivalent – that level was not the intended market for the 3 was it!

    • Chilli permalink
      June 24, 2019 2:09 am

      If someone can afford to drop £50K for a Tesla Model 3 then good for them. But I object to taxpayers being forced to chip in £3500 to help pay for their luxury car.

      • dave permalink
        June 24, 2019 8:24 am

        The market capitalization of Tesla Motors has dropped from a high of $65 billion, to $39 billion this year, while the USA stock market has been powering ahead. I wonder what will happen, when there is a general bear market? After all, a company which loses $1 billion a year does not seem much of a safe haven investment.

  13. Duker permalink
    June 24, 2019 6:54 am

    Last new coal fired station was bought online in 2015, to replace older units, but still higher output than 2013.
    Steel production still uses 4.4 million tons of coal in 2017

  14. June 24, 2019 8:20 am

    Reblogged this on ajmarciniak.

  15. June 24, 2019 8:58 am

    I got this in reply to complaint to BBC
    “The BBC’s position is that there is general agreement the scientific evidence shows the global climate is changing and the change is predominantly man-made” So this suggests that the BBC think the science shows that man has more effect on the climate than the sun.
    I would agree the climate is changing it always has. From day to day ,month to month and year to year. Plus differently in different parts of the world. But the climate is “predominantly man-made” yikes next time I put on the kettle for a cup of tea. I could cause a tornado somewhere. I think its called the butterfly effect.

    • dave permalink
      June 24, 2019 10:35 am

      “…there is general [sic] agreement…”

      The usual mangling of the English language by an uneducated employee of the BBC.

      Acceptable would be “there is widespread agreement. “General” would mean that everybody in the world has exactly the same opinion, which is obviously false.

      Of course, what they actually mean is that there is unanimous agreement in their twiterati colony about what is an acceptable belief. Anybody who fails one of their shibboleth tests is benighted and to be sneered at.

  16. June 24, 2019 2:52 pm

    Reblogged this on Patti Kellar.

  17. June 24, 2019 3:46 pm

    Looks like we are going to get Climate Change 24/7
    Checked Sky News to find out is we are at war with Iran yet as predicted by General Wesley Clark. Only to find that the Sky has turned green, Sky news were excitingly pushing ‘A New Climate’ a series of interviews mini climate change propaganda pieces dressed up as Documentary News. Switched over to BBC they were highlighting a climate protest and how the government are acting to slow to save us from certain death. Switched through a few over news channels. Only to be told this was the wettest year somewhere the hottest somewhere else. With summer (hopefully) arriving expect mass hysteria. Hottest nights can mot sleep. This is the start of it the atmosphere is going to catch fire its Fahrenheit 451.
    We are all doomed.

  18. Coeur de Lion permalink
    June 24, 2019 5:08 pm

    Don’t get disheartened boys and girls- the truth will out with blackouts and being economically screwed by the Third World. And a rising boredom with extreme events.

  19. June 24, 2019 6:10 pm

    https://news.sky.com/story/science-storms-and-protests-behind-climate-crisis-11744227
    More than 45 years after scientists first warned about global warming, we’re finally stirring from a collective complacency.

    The old argument over whether humans are responsible for climate change is done. It’s over.

  20. J. Vermeer permalink
    June 24, 2019 8:21 pm

    Unreliable figures. Solar for June only has one day of data. The rest is blank.

    • June 24, 2019 10:07 pm

      Irrelevant

      Solar, according to BP, only contributes about 2% of Dutch electricity anyway.

      Most countries, incl the UK, have problems monitoring solar on a day to basis, because it is so widely distributed.

      The essence of the post stands, ie that the Netherlands rely on fossil fuels for nearly all of their power.

      • J. Vermeer permalink
        June 28, 2019 10:48 pm

        Thanks for your reply Paul.

  21. Jan permalink
    June 27, 2019 7:28 pm

    Can the authors of this article please list sources of “other” fuels that generate energy?

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