California EV HELL: QUEUING for chargers at MIDNIGHT!!!
November 5, 2023
By Paul Homewood
Coming to a town near you!
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Beyond madness is all you can say.
Burbank CA has over 200 EV charge points, 16 of which are free, so my guess is that the queue is for the free chargers. Everyone likes free stuff and I suspect that if there were a bunch of free petrol pumps there would be a queue for those!
Time isn’t free. I know of nobody who works for nothing.
California minimum wage is $15 per hour, so if you wait 3 hours to charge your car, that’s $45.
I agree, I wouldn’t do it to save a few dollars, but there will be many going crazy on 24th November hoping to grab a bargain.
I used to watch films while I waited in the car for my son during football training so some of them may have been having fun!
Anyone driving an EV is making a lot more than $15/hr.
1301 N Victory Pl, Burbank, CA 91502
“No parking, except while charging” reads signs at the 8 charging stations. At least 14 cars in line.
One car looked unattended. Hmmm . . . nearby hotels.
Having an EV is not insane. Having an EV and depending on public charging IS insane.
Wot? No lamp post charging?
Oh yes, they take 8 hours….
In the Geoff Buys Cars end to end challenge, in the summation video Lee made a point that having done the same trip before it was much worse this time as there were now more cars vying for the chargers. As far as I know where I live there are 4 chargers at the station and possibly something at the racecourse but that’s it. However, given the flooding we have around here at the moment, a battery car would not be a sensible single car choice.
I would have thought this is just the sort of place where people have driveways and are wealthy enough to install their own chargers and electricity is cheap anyway.. So who are these people queuing?
The real tragedy with respect to EV’s is not the folks waiting in line, it’s the fact that the subsidies that pay for the EV’s, the charging infrastructure and generous offsets that the EV’s claim from the government all come from lower income people still driving petrol cars. I would guess close to $0.80/gal of gasoline purchased in California subsidized EV’s and other green purchases. It’s paid for in the price renters pay for electricity to homeowners who have solar panels. And the worst is there is probably at least $1500 built into the price of ICE cars to subsidize low emissions vehicles. So the poor folks who can’t afford an EV or solar panels are likely paying $5000 in higher prices and taxes annually to support great green transition in California. These are taxes and transfer payments being made without any regard to income of the people who have to pay. These green taxes are strongly regressive by their nature.
A year or two ago I read up the yearly figures for Tesla .
It showed that the car company lost about $750,000 for the year , but subsidies of about $1.5 billion allowed them to show a profit .
Am guessing the subsidies were in the form of Carbon Credits , which they then sold on to car companies making ICE cars which put their prices up a lot .
So , although well hidden , the subsidies were being put on to everybody else .
And the rising cost of electricity from the Green madness hits everybody , especially the ones who can afford it least .
I have read somewhere before that Tesla as a pure EV company did indeed make its money on the carbon credits rather than car sales. happy to be corrected.
Tesla overall profits 2022 $12.6bn.
Tesla sales of carbon credits in 2022 $1.78bn.
It was 2020 that Tesla needed subsidies to be able to show a profit .
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-s-2020-profit-didn-t-come-from-selling-cars-but-regulatory-credits-155403.html
Since then their figures have shown an improvement ,but company value has shown a very large drop . So perhaps investors still do not believe the profit claims are real , and so are not buying into the business .
https://news.sky.com/story/what-did-elon-musk-say-to-make-tesla-shares-drop-by-50bn-12079327
Elon Musk repeatedly said that Tesla stock was overvalued.
It seems to be quite common in California. Here’s the Harris Ranch charger on I-5.
This is just the Tuesday profile. Previous analysis showed radical changes day-to-day.
I read somewhere that those Harris Ranch chargers are powered by diesel generators.
The Harris Ranch chargers are not powered by diesel generators.
https://www.harrisranch.com/news-info/harris-ranch-refutes-misinformation-on-property-use/
Love your emails. Been getting them for years.
I have a hybrid plug-in and I have not seen anything quite as bad as this line, but I have noticed that government offices have plenty of stations that are rarely used and NOT open to the tax-paying public. It’s only going to get worse, thanks to Gov. Gavin (who probably uses taxpayer funded charging stations).
ICE – people led
EV – government led
Thats all yeah need to know
And allegedly we humans are meant to be the intelligent of all species??
Just did a test at the Canterbury Asda drive through filling station. From pulling off the road, filling 55 litres, driving to pay point thence back onto road – it took a few seconds over 7 minutes….once a month. No special trip as I was going past there anyway. He would want hours every week?
How dare you prove, that ICE is better than EV !
To add to the madness, this recent research indicates surprisingly high charging losses.
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest-fleet-news/electric-fleet-news/2023/07/25/fleets-losing-electricity-when-charging-electric-vehicles-video
So even if you get 3 miles per kWh from the battery, you will have put up to 1.25 kWh at the meter into the battery.
So many saw it coming and yet still the Government took no notice. So what changes ?