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Clodagh – The Storm That Was Not

November 30, 2015

By Paul Homewood 

   

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http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/11/26/windy-but-storm-clodagh-looks-unlikely-this-weekend/

 

 

Last Thursday, the Met Office informed us that Storm Clodagh was unlikely.

Two days later, the Irish Met Office thought otherwise.

 

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http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/11/28/met-eireann-names-storm-clodagh/

 

All a bit of a mess really.

But did Clodagh end up being a storm, or was it just another gale like Abigail and Barney?

Neil Catto provides the answer.  

 

 

Named Storms 3 Actual Storms 0

Storm Clodagh: 

On Saturday 28th November 2015 the Met Office via the BBC reported the Irish Met Office (Met Eireann) had named the next winter storm Clodagh. Despite this cop out so they could blame someone else if a storm didn’t occur, regular weather forecasts by the BBC on behalf of the Met Office referred to Storm Clodagh. So what did happen? 

 

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Fig 1 Met Eireann weather warning issued: Saturday 28Nov2015 18:00 – Valid: 28Nov2015 18:01 to 29Nov2015 15:00

 

Met Eireann in their warning state;

Southwesterly winds veering westerly will reach mean speeds og 60 to 80 kph, with gusts of 100 to 130 kph.

Clodagh, the third named storm of the extended winter season, will pass eastwards to the north of Ireland on Sunday morning 29th November. The current Status Orange for very strong winds is a direct result of Clodagh’s evolution. Clodagh will pass through Scotland and the North Sea towards southern Scandinavia where it is expected to deepen further.

 

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Fig 2 UKMO warnings: Issued at 12:20 on 29Nov2015 – Valid from 0700 on 29Nov2015 to 2000 on Sunday 29Nov2015

 

The UKMO does not mention Clodagh. Severe west to southwesterly gales are expected to affect England, Wales and parts of southern Scotland on Sunday. Inland gusts of 50-60 mph could occur, especially in the west and over northern England. Gusts around western coasts could reach 70 mph, this is most likely around coasts of north Wales, northwest England and Dumfries & Galloway.

As I captured this at 0641 on 29Nov2015 I guess their issue date should have been 28Nov2015 not the 29th as stated.

Analysis of 80 UK weather reporting stations including four from Eire showed, none of the eighty stations reported a Force 10 storm.

 

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Table 1 lowest pressure and highest sustained wind speeds obtained from hourly observations

 

The lowest pressure was in the Shetland Isles, but 972 mb is not particularly low for a winter storm. None of the highest wind speeds reached the 55 mph necessary to be classed as a STORM. The strongest winds were distributed over much of the country from Lydd (sustained 41 mph) in the southeast to Sumburgh in the North, Shannon (Ireland) in the West and Newcastle in the East. The UKMO excluded the middle part and northern Scotland in their warnings.

Conclusion: Apart from 3 hours at Benbecula during Storm Abigail, when technically it reached storm force 10 on the Beaufort scale, the rest of Abigail, Barney and now Clodagh DID NOT reach storm force at any of the 80 weather observing locations in the UK and Ireland.

What next; D – Deceptive, E – Elusive, F – Fart …..

FOOTNOTE

If you think Pembrey Sands sounds familiar, you would be right, as it appeared near the top of the list for “Storm” Barney.

A look at the location there shows why wind speeds will always be much higher there than elsewhere in the region. Effectively it is right on the beach, itself in a very exposed part of coastline. (The Met Office give an altitude of 3m).

As it is now an automatic station, any and every gust will be logged and relayed to the Met Office.

 

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22 Comments leave one →
  1. November 30, 2015 6:42 pm

    “The Little Storm That Couldn’t”

  2. John F. Hultquist permalink
    November 30, 2015 6:47 pm

    Clodaghlet, then?

  3. Bloke down the pub permalink
    November 30, 2015 7:07 pm

    On the BBC weather forecast tonight, the presenter was still talking about Clodagh being the ‘third named storm this winter’. Hopefully, once COP21 is done and dusted, they might cut back on all this BS.

    • November 30, 2015 7:16 pm

      I doubt we will have any chance of seeing any cutback on the BS until someone finally decides it’s time to kick Slingo out of the Met Office door.

  4. November 30, 2015 7:07 pm

    Abigail was only a medium gale, Barney was mainly Blarney, Clodagh – oh dear.

    When’s the next Met dream due?

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      November 30, 2015 7:49 pm

      Will it be a wet dream ???

  5. AndyG55 permalink
    November 30, 2015 8:25 pm

    They truly are making a total laughing stock of themselves, aren’t they !🙂

  6. Ben Vorlich permalink
    November 30, 2015 9:36 pm

    It will take a couple of named storms failing to produce in the home counties before this nonsense is given a decent burial.

    The MO is like a child with a new toy, they are currently at the taking it to bed with them stage.

  7. phil lenoir permalink
    November 30, 2015 10:27 pm

    Posting here for the first time just to provide a bit of quality control in an otherwise excellent blog. I live 5 miles from Blackpool and can tell you the wind felt a lot stronger than has been quoted here. I checked this site: http://rp5.co.uk/Weather_archive_in_Blackpool_(airport) and it confirms max wind gust of 32m/s = 72 mph????

    • November 30, 2015 10:58 pm

      Yes, that sounds about right for gusts.

      The Beaufort Scale is based on 10-minute sustained speeds

      • phil lenoir permalink
        December 1, 2015 10:20 am

        10 minute readings show 30m/s=70mph at 1pm Nov29th. Is this not what was predicted?

      • December 1, 2015 10:50 am

        There are three speeds given , Phil.

        ff3 = 32m/s is “Max Gust between the periods of observation”, ie during the whole hour

        ff10 = “Max gust over the 10 minutes preceeding the observation”, ie the 10 minutes before 1pm (this is the figure you quote)

        ff = “Mean wind speed over the 10 minutes preceeding the observation”, = 21m/s or 47mph, which rp5 correc tly label “Strong Gale”

        Forecasts of the winds were actually pretty good, but the point is that Clodagh never reached Storm Force, which is 55mph +

        BTW – that rp5 site looks interesting – I have not heard of it before, I’ll bookmark it

        Thanks

        Paul

      • phil lenoir permalink
        December 1, 2015 12:27 pm

        Thanks, see this now! Keep up the great work.

  8. John F. Hultquist permalink
    December 1, 2015 2:56 am

    I’ve been out on a bare hilltop with winds between 70 and 80 mph. The nearest weather station was 15 miles away and a lower elevation, so not too useful. I moved forward, but with difficulty. The stronger gusts can catch you with one foot off of the ground and give you a little spin, or more. Things move through the air. Glasses are a good thing.
    Have a look at this video of Associated Press reporter Jerry Bodlander in a University of Maryland wind tunnel:

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      December 1, 2015 7:58 am

      Windy days on high tops can be very dangerous, step out of the lee side into an exposed position and you can be blown off your feet. Lower down the conditions can be nothing exceptional.

      Many years ago I was given this conundrum.
      Q How can you tell a man is from Edinburgh where ever he is in the world?

      A He’s the one who holds onto his hat at every street corner.

      Edinburgh, built on a hill rising from sea-level with streets of 5 story buildings a naturally windy place. I don’t know how it compares with Chicago, my single week long visit there left me with the impression that it was fairly average in the wind stakes.

  9. December 1, 2015 3:37 am

    I propose the next storm be named Dinglefritz!

  10. December 1, 2015 11:20 am

    There still are people who believe in the MET Office and in their predictions?

  11. xmetman permalink
    December 3, 2015 3:18 pm

    I am not an advocate of naming ‘storms’, I personally think its a bad idea and have written about it several times in my blog, but technically Neil Catto is wrong, on the 29th of November the mean wind speed from at least four SYNOP stations (in WMO block 03) exceeded 47 knots.

    Admittedly three of them are on mountain tops but another 85 sites from a variety of locations had gusts to storm force 10 or higher, which depending on which meteorological glossary you’re using can also constitute a storm.

    Neil says that he analysed the winds from 80 UK sites, the hourly SYNOP data that I regularly download includes 158 sites in block 03, and there are many more climate stations that the Met Office unfortunately keep to themselves.

    Here is the blog that I wrote on the afternoon of the 29th about Clodagh:
    https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/clodagh/

    And here are the top 40 highest hourly mean wind speeds in WMO block 03 for that day, and as you can see the winds on Great Dun Fell were hurricane force 13 with gusts to force 16 on the extended Beaufort scale.

    0000 UTC on 29 November – 2300 UTC on 29 November 2015

    [01] 03227 Great Dun Fell 847 M 76 kt [f13] at 29-1300 G102 kt [f16] at 29-1400
    [02] 03065 Cairngorm 1237 M 59 kt [f11] at 29-1800 G93 kt [f15] at 29-2200
    [03] 03305 Capel Curig 216 M 51 kt [f10] at 29-1300 G81 kt [f14] at 29-1300
    [04] 03072 Cairnwell 928 M 49 kt [f10] at 29-2100 G95 kt [f15] at 29-2100
    [05] 03014 Foula Island 22 M 46 kt [f9] at 29-1600
    03405 Aberdaron 95 M 46 kt [f9] at 29-1200 G61 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    03963 Mace Head 23 M 46 kt [f9] at 29-0800 G60 kt [f11] at 29-1000
    [06] 03039 Bealach Na Ba 773 M 44 kt [f9] at 29-2100 G67 kt [f12] at 29-2100
    03609 Mumbles 43 M 44 kt [f9] at 29-0900 G59 kt [f11] at 29-0900
    [07] 03210 St Bees Head 124 M 43 kt [f9] at 29-1700 G61 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    03502 Aberporth 133 M 43 kt [f9] at 29-1400 G59 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03605 Pembry Sands 3 M 43 kt [f9] at 29-1400 G59 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03316 Crosby 9 M 43 kt [f9] at 29-1300 G58 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03041 Aonach Mor. 1130 M 43 kt [f9] at 29-0000 G72 kt [f13] at 29-0300
    [08] 03008 Fair Isle 68 M 42 kt [f9] at 29-2000 G63 kt [f11] at 29-1900
    03410 Lake Vyrnwy 360 M 42 kt [f9] at 29-1400 G73 kt [f13] at 29-1400
    03155 Drumalbin 245 M 42 kt [f9] at 29-1200 G63 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    [09] 03318 Blackpool 10 M 41 kt [f9] at 29-1300 G62 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    03153 Dundrennan 113 M 41 kt [f9] at 29-1200 G65 kt [f12] at 29-1200
    [10] 03010 Sule Skerry 12 M 40 kt [f8] at 29-1700 G58 kt [f11] at 29-1500
    03346 Leeds 267 M 40 kt [f8] at 29-1400 G65 kt [f12] at 29-1400
    03866 St Catherine’s Point 20 M 40 kt [f8] at 29-1100 G54 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03005 Lerwick 82 M 40 kt [f8] at 29-0900 G54 kt [f10] at 29-1000
    [11] 03023 South Uist Range 4 M 39 kt [f8] at 29-2000 G54 kt [f10] at 29-1800
    03111 RAF Machrihanish 12 M 39 kt [f8] at 29-1000 G56 kt [f11] at 29-1600
    [12] 03978 Finner 37 M 38 kt [f8] at 29-1600 G64 kt [f12] at 29-1600
    03275 Loftus Samos 158 M 38 kt [f8] at 29-1400 G61 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03214 Walney Island 15 M 38 kt [f8] at 29-1200 G57 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03204 Isle Of Man 16 M 38 kt [f8] at 29-1200 G56 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    03969 Dublin 68 M 38 kt [f8] at 29-1200 G54 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    [13] 03100 Tiree 11 M 37 kt [f8] at 29-1900 G54 kt [f10] at 29-1800
    03105 Islay 17 M 37 kt [f8] at 29-1800 G55 kt [f10] at 29-1100
    [14] 03017 Kirkwall 17 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-1500 G59 kt [f11] at 29-0800
    03951 Sherkin Island 21 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-1100 G54 kt [f10] at 29-0900
    03952 Roches Point 40 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-1100 G48 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03907 Magilligan 6 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-1000 G57 kt [f11] at 29-1000
    03302 RAF Valley 11 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-0900 G52 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03857 Isle Of Portland 52 M 36 kt [f8] at 29-0800 G51 kt [f10] at 29-0200
    [15] 03379 RAF Cranwell 66 M 35 kt [f8] at 29-1500 G52 kt [f10] at 29-1500
    03803 Scilly 51 M 35 kt [f8] at 29-1200 G48 kt [f10] at 29-1000
    03604 Milford-Haven 44 M 35 kt [f8] at 29-0900 G56 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    [16] 03980 Malin Head 20 M 34 kt [f8] at 29-1800 G62 kt [f11] at 29-1000
    03707 RAF Chivenor 8 M 34 kt [f8] at 29-1300 G51 kt [f10] at 29-1300
    03132 West Freugh 11 M 34 kt [f8] at 29-1100 G55 kt [f10] at 29-1100
    03962 Shannon 14 M 34 kt [f8] at 29-0900 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1000
    03976 Belmullet 8 M 34 kt [f8] at 29-0700 G54 kt [f10] at 29-0900
    [17] 03488 Weybourne 21 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1600 G55 kt [f10] at 29-1700
    03392 Wainfleet 3 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1400 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03261 RAF Dishforth 35 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1300
    03967 Casement 97 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G58 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    03961 Oak Park, Carlow 63 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03301 RAF Mona 61 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03894 Guernsey 102 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-1100 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1100
    03973 Connaught 203 M 33 kt [f7] at 29-0800 G54 kt [f10] at 29-0900
    [18] 03002 Baltasound 15 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-2200 G49 kt [f10] at 29-2300
    03628 Filton 56 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1600 G47 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03469 RAF Holbeach 12 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1500 G55 kt [f10] at 29-1600
    03281 Fylingdales 262 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G58 kt [f11] at 29-1400
    03373 RAF Scampton 61 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1600
    03136 Prestwick(Royal) 19 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1100 G58 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    03872 Thorney Island 4 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1100 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03916 Ballypatrick Forest 156 M 32 kt [f7] at 29-1000 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1000
    [19] 03772 London Heathrow 24 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1700 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1600
    03684 Braintree 92 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1700 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03716 St Athan 49 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1500 G48 kt [f10] at 29-1100
    03761 RAF Odiham 123 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1400 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03257 RAF Leeming 40 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G57 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    03226 Warcop 227 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G57 kt [f11] at 29-1300
    03895 St Brelade 84 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03240 RAF Boulmer 22 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G55 kt [f10] at 29-1300
    03953 Valentia 23 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1100 G48 kt [f10] at 29-1100
    03970 Claremorris 69 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-1000 G50 kt [f10] at 29-0900
    03904 Castlederg 49 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-0900 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1000
    03026 Stornoway Airport 7 M 31 kt [f7] at 29-0400 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1800
    [20] 03391 RAF Coningsby 7 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1800 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1400
    03266 RAF Linton-On-Ouse 16 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03238 Albemarle 142 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1300
    03647 Little Rissington 210 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G47 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03409 Bala 163 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03385 Donna Nook 8 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G51 kt [f10] at 29-1500
    03414 RAF Shawbury 75 M 30 kt [f7] at 29-1100 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    [21] 03031 Loch Glascarnoch 269 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-2300 G48 kt [f10] at 29-2100
    03062 Tain Range 4 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-2200 G42 kt [f9] at 29-2200
    03482 RAF Marham 23 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-1700 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03265 Topcliffe 28 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03808 Camborne 87 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03827 Plymouth 50 M 29 kt [f7] at 29-0900 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    [22] 03876 Shoreham-by-Sea 2 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1800 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1400
    03796 Langdon Bay 117 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1700 G43 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03590 RAF Wattisham 86 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1700 G41 kt [f9] at 29-1800
    03462 RAF Wittering 83 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1500 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03746 Boscombe Down 124 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1300 G42 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03313 Rhyl 77 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G59 kt [f11] at 29-1100
    03162 Eskdalemuir 236 M 28 kt [f7] at 29-1200 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    [23] 03784 Gravesend-Broadness 3 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1700 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03351 Rostherne 35 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1400 G51 kt [f10] at 29-1400
    03377 RAF Waddington 70 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1400 G42 kt [f9] at 29-1500
    03823 Cardinham 200 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1300 G47 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03911 Lough Sea 225 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G47 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03955 Cork 153 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03520 Shobdon 99 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G42 kt [f9] at 29-1600
    03966 Gurteen 76 M 27 kt [f6] at 29-1100 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    [24] 03075 Wick Airport 38 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1800 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1600
    03797 RAF Manston 54 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1800 G41 kt [f9] at 29-1800
    03781 Kenley 170 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1600 G43 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03672 RAF Northolt 37 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1500 G42 kt [f9] at 29-1500
    03344 Bingley 262 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1300 G53 kt [f10] at 29-1300
    03212 Keswick 81 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G56 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    03862 Bournemouth 11 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-1100 G38 kt [f8] at 29-1100
    03225 Shap 252 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-0900 G57 kt [f11] at 29-1200
    03710 Liscombe 348 M 26 kt [f6] at 29-0300 G47 kt [f9] at 29-0700
    [25] 03068 RAF Lossiemouth 12 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-2200 G37 kt [f8] at 29-1800
    03037 Skye 18 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-2000 G53 kt [f10] at 29-2000
    03560 Thurleigh 85 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1900 G39 kt [f8] at 29-1700
    03658 RAF Benson 61 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1500 G43 kt [f9] at 29-1500
    03853 Yeovilton 22 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1500 G40 kt [f8] at 29-1500
    03330 Leek Thorncliffe 298 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1300 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1400
    03230 Redesdale 211 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G50 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03158 Charterhall 112 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G48 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03917 Belfast 81 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-1100 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03088 Inverbervie 134 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-0100 G34 kt [f8] at 29-0100
    03034 Aultbea 11 M 25 kt [f6] at 29-0000 G43 kt [f9] at 29-2300
    [26] 03544 Church Lawford 107 M 24 kt [f6] at 29-1800 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03382 Leconfield 8 M 24 kt [f6] at 29-1500 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1400
    [27] 03693 Shoeburyness 2 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1700 G40 kt [f8] at 29-1800
    03740 RAF Lyneham 156 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1600 G43 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03292 Bridlington 15 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1400 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1500
    03768 Farnborough 65 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1300 G41 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03749 Middle Wallop 90 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1200 G40 kt [f8] at 29-1500
    03321 Hawarden 13 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1100 G47 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03134 Glasgow 59 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1100 G44 kt [f9] at 29-2300
    03901 Thomastown 72 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1000 G49 kt [f10] at 29-1200
    03979 Ballyhaise, Cavan 79 M 23 kt [f6] at 29-1000 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1000
    [28] 03066 RAF Kinloss 6 M 22 kt [f6] at 29-2300 G40 kt [f8] at 29-1800
    [29] 03171 RAF Leuchars 11 M 21 kt [f5] at 29-2100 G33 kt [f7] at 29-2100
    03529 Pershore 35 M 21 kt [f5] at 29-1300 G35 kt [f8] at 29-1300
    03743 Larkhill 132 M 21 kt [f5] at 29-1200 G37 kt [f8] at 29-1200
    03923 Glenanne 161 M 21 kt [f5] at 29-1100 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03809 Culdrose 81 M 21 kt [f5] at 29-0100 G44 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    [30] 03091 Aberdeen 65 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1600 G33 kt [f7] at 29-1600
    03503 Trawsgoed 63 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1300 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1500
    03649 RAF Brize Norton 87 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1300 G40 kt [f8] at 29-1400
    03507 Sennybridge 307 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1200 G46 kt [f9] at 29-1300
    03166 Edinburgh Gogarbank 57 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1100 G45 kt [f9] at 29-1200
    03915 Portglenone 64 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1100 G42 kt [f9] at 29-1700
    03840 Dunkeswell 255 M 20 kt [f5] at 29-1100 G38 kt [f8] at 29-1400
    [31] 03047 Tulloch Bridge 249 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-2300 G38 kt [f8] at 29-1600
    03956 Johnstown Castle 62 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-1400 G33 kt [f7] at 29-1400
    03522 Hereford 76 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-1300 G41 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    03354 Nottingham 117 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-1300 G38 kt [f8] at 29-1400
    03971 Mullingar 100 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-1000 G36 kt [f8] at 29-1000
    03044 Altnaharra 81 M 19 kt [f5] at 29-0500 G41 kt [f9] at 29-0400
    [32] 03144 Strathallan 35 M 18 kt [f5] at 29-2000 G34 kt [f8] at 29-1900
    03769 Charlwood 67 M 18 kt [f5] at 29-1600 G34 kt [f8] at 29-1600
    03882 Herstomonceux West 52 M 18 kt [f5] at 29-1500 G41 kt [f9] at 29-1100
    [33] 03535 Coleshill 96 M 17 kt [f5] at 29-1600 G34 kt [f8] at 29-1300
    03080 Aboyne 140 M 17 kt [f5] at 29-0100 G28 kt [f7] at 29-0200
    [34] 03660 High Wycombe 204 M 15 kt [f4] at 29-1200 G37 kt [f8] at 29-1700
    [35] 03063 Aviemore 228 M 9 kt [f3] at 29-0500 G20 kt [f5] at 29-1800

    • December 3, 2015 7:14 pm

      Which was the one that was not on a mountain, Bruce?

      • xmetman permalink
        December 3, 2015 7:40 pm

        Hi Paul

        The elevation of the station follows the station name in the list.

        All the debate is immaterial anyway, because the Met Office have got a get out clause in the fact that they don’t use the old meteorological glossary definition of a storm being when a mean speed exceed 47 kts. They also use the phase “UK and/or Ireland” which also gets them off the hook if things don’t go according to plan in the UK, blame the Irish. This is the stock email reply that I got when asking for the criteria for a named storm:

        “Thank you for your E-mail.

        A storm is named when it is deemed to have the potential to cause medium to high impacts in the UK and/or Ireland.

        You can find further information here, http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2015/Name-our-storms-list

        If you have any further questions or need any additional information, please let us know. Our Weather Desk team are available to assist you 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Simply reply to this email or give us a call on 0370 900 0100 and one of our advisors will be happy to help.

        Kind regards”

        The storm may not even happen, but because they saw a potential for it to “cause medium to high impacts” they seem to be able to justify that it was a storm even if it wasn’t. I would be very interested to see how they assessed the alerts they issued for these last three named storms. It’s a bit like the Police investigating themselves, surely the monitoring and verification of warnings that the Met Office should be done by an external organisation.

        Bruce.

  12. NeilC permalink
    December 4, 2015 9:25 am

    As Clodagh was talked about in public weather forecasts provided by the UKMO, surely the forecast must represent of what the “majority of public” should expect. The four places which xmetman highlights, techinaclly reached storm force, but are all on mountain tops.

    The majority of the general public did not experience storm force winds, therefore the forecasts were misleading.

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