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Vattenfall plans $3.4bn Energiewende boost for Germany – Power Engineering International

June 28, 2016

Have they not realised that Vattenfall are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts?

  1. AndyG55 permalink
    June 28, 2016 10:35 am

    Sorry to be off topic so early, Paul, but people , especially in the EU…….


    Wish I knew how to trigger the auto-mod so you could read it first.

    • June 28, 2016 12:24 pm

      Mind boggling if true. The UK dodged a bullet. EU doubling down on stupid.

      • Robert permalink
        June 28, 2016 3:31 pm

        This has been known for some time and is well known.

        It comes out of the 5 presidents report and deals with a Europe united in political and economic union.

        UK would have been excluded as we are not part of the Eurozone. We would have been an ‘Associate member’ of the EU. This was David Cameron’s special place for the UK within the EU, but outside the main power block.

        Distrust anyone who proposes ‘Associate Membership’ as it is the back door to our remaining in the EU with no influence but all the costs and regulations.

      • Swisspeasant permalink
        June 28, 2016 4:49 pm

        Which emphasises that the EU left us as much as we left them.
        I note that part of the cycle is an annual growth survey. That must be a short document unless they are measuring the growth in hopeful planning and self indulgence.

      • A C Osborn permalink
        June 28, 2016 5:36 pm

        Luboš Motl haswhat appears to be a copy of the latest report.

    • Andrew Duffin permalink
      June 29, 2016 8:26 am

      There’s nothing remotely new about this.
      It is the acknowledged and admitted aim of the ECSC/EC/EEC/EU right from the beginning back in the 50’s.
      Anyone who finds it surprising has not been paying attention.
      The UK did indeed dodge the bullet – assuming we do actually leave, which I would say is by no means certain.

  2. A C Osborn permalink
    June 28, 2016 11:16 am

    I know it is line with EU planning.
    But is it true?

    • A C Osborn permalink
      June 28, 2016 11:17 am

      That was in response to Andy.

  3. Graeme No.3 permalink
    June 29, 2016 8:10 am

    Recovering the waste heat from a coal fired plant into hot water and using that for district heating might qualify as ‘renewable’. Denmark has over 600 (mostly small) plants doing just that.
    Personally I think the Shetland approach of isolating wind power from the grid and dumping it into heating water (for district heating) has a lot of merit and avoids a lot of the problems associated with wind electricity. It would still have to be subsidised.

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