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Arctic Ice Fake News

February 19, 2017
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By Paul Homewood

 

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Experts tell us that Arctic sea ice is getting thinner.

The reality is much different.

 

 

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http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

 

Back in 2008, much of the Arctic basin had ice less than a meter thick, notably in the Beaufort, Chukchi and East Siberian Seas.

Now the same regions mostly have ice that is at least two meters thick, and some over four meters.

The only area which had substantial thick ice in 2008 was to the north of Greenland. All of this was washed out of the Arctic through the Fram strait a few months later. This led to the big drop in multi-year ice that year, which has naturally proved so difficult to replace.

 

 

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http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

 

Currents tend to push the ice in an anti-clockwise direction around the Arctic. This will mean that the extensive thick ice we see now will be retained within the basin this summer.

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23 Comments
  1. February 19, 2017 11:05 pm

    Warmist claims about Arctic sea ice are getting thinner and thinner.

  2. Steven Mosher permalink
    February 20, 2017 1:44 am

    “This will mean that the extensive thick ice we see now will be retained within the basin this summer.”

    A bold prediction, with no specifics.

    • AndyG55 permalink
      February 20, 2017 8:19 am

      From you, that is a real laugh, Mosh… satire ?? self-evaluation ??

      No used cars to sell, or any integrity left, hey Mosh,

      Only income is from swilling the climate trough.

    • February 20, 2017 9:36 am

      Mosh, climate “scientists” and their useful idiots have been using bold predictions with no specifics as their currency of choice for the last 25 years.
      Wassamatter? Don’t you like it when we learn from you? Or do you have a copyright on unsubstantiated exaggerations?

    • Tim Hammond permalink
      February 20, 2017 11:38 am

      “the extensive sea ice we see now”

      “will be retained”

      “in the basin”

      That’s not specific?

    • February 21, 2017 2:24 pm

      OMG you know you’ve made the big time and tramped on some big toes when Mosh Man takes time out of his busy schedule to visit your site and make his incisively negative comments. Has anyone here or at Climate Etc ever seen him make one positive remark?

  3. Richard111 permalink
    February 20, 2017 7:26 am

    Now MINUS 28 degrees in the Arctic. 20th February 2017.

    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

  4. richard verney permalink
    February 20, 2017 8:38 am

    And yet the data suggests that the amount of sea ice today, is broadly similar to that seen in the 1940s and 1950s when the lows of that time were assessed to be around the 6 million sq.Km mark. See the Vinnakov et al (1980) paper which suggests that a low of about 5.7million sq km was reached in 1959/60.

  5. February 20, 2017 9:12 am

    We will know it all by 2020 since an Ice-locked ship is to drift over North Pole.

    “Researchers hope to gather valuable new insights on the region where Earth’s climate is changing fastest.

    Last month the extent of Arctic sea-ice was the lowest ever recorded for a January (during the satellite era), with temperatures several degrees above the long-term average.

    The decline of Arctic sea-ice is much faster than the climate models can reproduce and we need better climate models to make better predictions for the future.

    There is a potential that in a few decades the Arctic will be ice free in summer. That would be a different world and we need to know about that in advance; we need to know is that going to happen or will that not happen?”

    In other words, we are all doomed unless we send them loads more money.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39024227

    • nigel permalink
      February 20, 2017 1:08 pm

      “There is a potential that in a few decades the Arctic will be ice free in summer.”

      I have to wait “a few decades”? I will be lucky to last one! Some Cambridge professor called Wadham told me it would be ice free by summer 2015. Where do I send my Cambridge degrees for shredding?

      Seems a bit chilly up north at the moment:

      http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

      According to the National Snow and Ice Center (MASIE 4 km resolution product), Arctic sea ice on 18th February was 14,612,376 sq km. How much ice does a man need for his G&T?

      • Bitter&twisted permalink
        February 20, 2017 1:35 pm

        Nigel, as you said professor Wadhams boldly stated that the “Arctic would be ice-free” in 2016 as well.
        In fact it never got below 4 “Wadhams” and what is more, he declined to put his own money where his loud mouth was, when asked to wager £1000 on his own prediction.
        A serial failure and charlatan- in other words a typical climate “scientist”.

      • nigel permalink
        February 20, 2017 3:01 pm

        In the interests of exactness, my “Arctic” sea-ice includes some areas – like Hudson Bay – south of the Arctic Circle.

        Re Wadhams, he also started weaseling in summer 2015 by saying if a million square kilometers of ice lingered around the shores of the Canadian islands it would not invalidate his prediction. Did not do him any good of course.

      • nigel permalink
        February 20, 2017 3:56 pm

        One day on, the sea ice is expanding quickly, and MASIE is now THE SAME as in 2015 and 2016.

        http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

      • nigel permalink
        February 20, 2017 3:59 pm

        Whoops! This is the thing I meant to reproduce:

        ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02186/plots/4km/r00_Northern_Hemisphere_ts_4km.png

  6. Athelstan permalink
    February 20, 2017 9:56 am

    I wonder when, they’ll start to resurrect that other big lie,

    “Himalayan glaciers all melted by next Thursday!”

    “Aliens………………er soz um: Permafrost all gone – African elephants seen on what was Tundra!”

    Do I exaggerate? Not a bit of it I read new scientist and Nat’ Geo!

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      February 20, 2017 10:12 am

      Well, the Russians and Koreans are working on resurrecting the mammoth….

      • R2Dtoo permalink
        February 20, 2017 11:21 am

        Why don’t they just glue some hair on Al Gore and turn him loose?

  7. Mick J permalink
    February 20, 2017 3:29 pm

    For those this might be new to, the ice movements can be seen in an animated GIF form from the following US Navy website.

    Click on a speed and drift icon from this menu.
    https://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/arctic.html

    Useful sometimes in order to compare impacts of storms.

  8. Get Real permalink
    February 20, 2017 7:16 pm

    R2Dtoo, the world already has a mammoth problem with Al Gore. (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

  9. Athelstan permalink
    February 20, 2017 11:02 pm

    We have a mammoth problem with liars and statistical jiggerpokery and er btw the Arctic sea ice fluctuates in area – it does that, SO no bloody panicko.

    • nigel permalink
      February 21, 2017 9:20 am

      If the Arctic ocean became ice-free for six months of the year, I might say “Um, interesting.”

      In the early 1970s there was some excitement in the papers of Canada because an eminent Arctic expert predicted a rise of 20 F by the year 2000. That was a regional forecast and was before “global warming” had been thought of. The excitement was because everybody in Canada thought this would be wonderful; an end to Arctic cold wave invasions!

      • Andy DC permalink
        February 22, 2017 2:59 am

        Would the world be better or worse off if the Arctic were ice free in summer?

  10. Ross Kimng permalink
    February 21, 2017 1:00 am

    Given the resurgence of Polar Bear population, my hypothesis is that the concomitant increase in Polar Bear farts is causing the Artic to melt.
    In all climatic cycles, ever-changing, every metric varies (if this isn’t a statement of the obvious, I don’t know what is!).
    Wadham & his Ivory-Tower ilk (self-serving & sinecure-seeking at the public-funding-trough) are bereft of intellectual integrity, and are so to be dismissed summarily.
    The Arctic has ben ice-free many times in paleo-history …. maybe it’s time is due again.
    Hypothesis no. 2 is that Polar Bears adapt by retaining their farts for flotation purposes.

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