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Army could phase out fossil fuels to attract ecofriendly recruits, senior general says

September 13, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Joe Public

 

Sometimes I think I have been transported to a parallel universe. Now I know I have!

 

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The Army could phase out petrol and diesel vehicles in a bid to attract ecofriendly recruits, the Chief of the General Staff has said.

Gen Sir Mark Carleton-Smith said today’s military equipment would probably be the last to be “dependent on fossil fuel engines”, and that a move toward clean energy would be beneficial logistically and put the military “on the right side of the environmental argument”.

Speaking at a defence and security event in London, he said: “The Army is leading defence on sustainable energy solutions, both at home and when deployed overseas. We may be at the inflection point of how we power our next generation of vehicles. Our current equipment programme is possibly the last to be dependent on fossil fuel.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/13/army-could-phase-fossil-fuels-attract-ecofriendly-recruits-senior/ 

 

If this idiot really believes that, he should be sacked overnight.

The army’s job is to protect the nation, not fight climate change.

Perhaps Sir Mark Idiot-Pratt might like to explain how it could do that in the next desert war, where I strongly suspect the enemy won’t have conveniently left behind thousands of EV charging points.

Or what the RAF will do when their aircraft are parked on the runways, waiting to recharge when the wind decides to blow, whilst the Russkis are queuing up overhead to bomb them.

I’m not sure what concerns me most. That the Chief of Staff wants to cripple the armed forces in some spurious attempt to be “on the right side of the environmental argument”. Or whether it is to “attract eco-friendly recruits”.

Unfortunately this appears to be yet another case where somebody, who is evidently sensible, feels he has to toe the establishment line if he wants to stay in his job.

But that will be of little consolation to the soldiers, whether eco-friendly or not, who will die as a result of his misguided policies.

81 Comments
  1. September 13, 2019 10:19 pm

    Presumably the eco-friendly recruits are going to be quite reluctant to actually shoot the enemy, too.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      September 13, 2019 11:43 pm

      Exactly what I was going to say!

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        September 13, 2019 11:45 pm

        Plus: not so much carbon sequestr5as lead sequestration.

    • Curious George permalink
      September 14, 2019 1:03 am

      No, cavalry has always been an elite force.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        September 14, 2019 10:24 am

        It seems they still produce horse muck.

      • H Davis permalink
        September 14, 2019 4:21 pm

        Horses are not eco-friendly. Too much methane.

    • Henning Nielsen permalink
      September 14, 2019 7:50 am

      Pea-shooters are eco-friendly and can do some harm.

    • Sheri permalink
      September 14, 2019 1:17 pm

      Maybe the recruits will eagerly shoot the enemy because it will remove the “parasitic” humans from the earth. Think of it. Free license to remove those pesky parasites on Gaia. Where else can you get a deal like that??? It’s not as crazy as you think—recruit those who hate humanity to kill humans—perfect logic.

    • Nial permalink
      September 16, 2019 8:57 am

      They’ll need to be careful they don’t give them lead poisoning. >:-0

  2. Joe Public permalink
    September 13, 2019 10:32 pm

    We have to wonder what the Army would do if snowflake recruits claimed they were triggered by loud ‘bangs’?

  3. roger permalink
    September 13, 2019 10:50 pm

    He should be Court Martialled and asked to explain himself before being discharged as mentally unfit for service

  4. Nicholas Pleasure permalink
    September 13, 2019 10:52 pm

    They might also consider promising not to kill anything to appeal to potential vegan recruits.

    I keep expecting to wake up but this is actually happening, isn’t it?

  5. Pancho Plail permalink
    September 13, 2019 11:05 pm

    How about some eco-friendly explosives and propellants too? Ones that don’t produce large volumes of greenhouse gases. Here is the formula for a simple gunpowder explosion:

    6 KNO3 + C7H4O → 3 K2CO3 + 4 CO2 + 2 H2O + 3 N2 (Sorry, can’t do subscripts.)

    Look at the CO2! We will have to come up with some other way of propelling our weapons, like tightly stretched string. Let’s make the army fit for 2050.

    • Bruce of Newcastle permalink
      September 13, 2019 11:30 pm

      They can use lasers powered by windmills!

      Hmm, do we armour the windmills or do we equip them with really big engines so they can drive faster to evade fire?

      • Sheri permalink
        September 14, 2019 1:20 pm

        How do you know they aren’t already armoured and equipped with spy equipment?

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      September 14, 2019 10:25 am

      Obviously they plan to go back to using natural guano.

  6. Graeme No.3 permalink
    September 13, 2019 11:36 pm

    Sometime in the early 1800’s (sorry have lost link but about 1810) a serving officer suggested that the army should revert to the long bow. He argued that in the hands of a trained soldier it was much superior to the existing Brown Bess musket; faster rate of fire, longer range, and no (target obscuring) smoke. The army responded that the years necessary to train an archer prevented rapid expansion in troop numbers.
    Perhaps the current proposal might have certain drawbacks when examined.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      September 14, 2019 9:42 am

      Thankfully the French insisted on attacking in close line at walking pace, so the accuracy of the Brown Bess didnt matter much. I suspect the longbow would have been brilliant at Waterloo.

    • September 16, 2019 4:44 am

      Oh, you beat me to the longbow…

      Here’s a photo I found of the UK soldier of the future…

      Equipped with the latest enviro-friendly armament, long-bow with smart arrows and self-wielding broad-sword, he’s the match anyone, …except maybe an enemy armed with real weapons that can reduce him to puppy chow in seconds.

      Then there’s the future of naval vehicles…

      I wonder how they’ll replace submarines?

      Maybe they can modify this to be their theme song?

      Good night, UK.

  7. Dick Goodwin permalink
    September 13, 2019 11:39 pm

    Could get a bit tricky for the new recruits when they have to start firing all those nasty bullets around. Or maybe the Russians just won’t want to attack when they realise we are eco friendly in the first place.

    • bobn permalink
      September 14, 2019 1:56 am

      Less of the Russophobia,. Just because the russians are sensible and happily burn fossil fuels doesnt mean you should paint them as the kneejerk enemy to your green ideology. Its the greenpeace obssessed Germans that habitually attack! The russians have never attacked the UK but the perfidious French and Germans have repeatedly – and through their EU agency still do!

      • debileeblog permalink
        September 14, 2019 5:09 pm

        +1

  8. Mack permalink
    September 13, 2019 11:39 pm

    Sadly, the insanity is contagious. Well, it certainly is on the western side of the old Iron Curtain it would seem. In the meantime, every warlord, tyrant and dictatorship to the east of us, glibly unaffected by snowflakedom and green hysteria, must be pissing themselves laughing at our suicidal zeal to neuter not just our military but our economies too. It makes you just want to weep.

  9. Harry Passfield permalink
    September 13, 2019 11:51 pm

    Hang on, Rommel, I just need to charge my tank’s battery! Oh dear.

  10. September 14, 2019 4:11 am

    The only eco-friendly fuels were those that could be burned by the 1950’s multifuel engines. they were underpowered and lousy..

    As a retired Lieutenant Colonel of Artillery (USA) you need prime movers that will use the most readily available fuel. Designing a fuel system that doesn’t do this means you really don’t want to be prepared for war. That’s petrochemical diesel If the Brits don’t wish to use those engines then I’m darned glad that I’m way to old to once again come across the pond and bail the UK out

  11. Arthur Krugler permalink
    September 14, 2019 4:13 am

    In the 5 day Israel/Arab war the Israel tanks ran away from the Arab tanks until the Arabs ran out of fuel. Our future tanks would need to trade armor and shells for battery storage. Am I missing something??

  12. Duker permalink
    September 14, 2019 4:30 am

    US didnt bail UK out. Hitler declared war on USA not the other way round, remember also there were 3 major allies in Europe . UK military casualties in European area far exceeded US numbers and both were dwarfed by USSR

  13. Kelland Hutchence permalink
    September 14, 2019 5:49 am

    So finally the lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum. Extinction Rebellion members will be signing up in droves (NOT)!

  14. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    September 14, 2019 6:00 am

    the enemy won’t have conveniently left behind thousands of EV charging points.

    Your new army will move with Diesel generators. Each thing that moves will have several (redundancy) mobile generators. Things can be charged while moving and more fully charged when not moving.
    Seems simple enough.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      September 14, 2019 9:44 am

      So bomb the generators and voila, no tanks. Great idea.

      • Russ Wood permalink
        September 14, 2019 11:38 am

        No, no, no! The generators themselves will be armoured! (But then they need another vehicle to move them. Ad infinitum…)

    • Dave Ward permalink
      September 14, 2019 6:59 pm

      “Things can be charged while moving”

      You’d better hope that the vehicle doing the charging is more than capable of keeping up with the one being charged – or there will be lots of heavy duty mains leads ripped in two…

  15. Bertie permalink
    September 14, 2019 6:05 am

    Gives a whole new meaning to the term ‘eco-warrior’!

  16. howardpaul permalink
    September 14, 2019 6:15 am

    Mark Carleton-Smith sounds and thinks more like a character in a Terry-Thomas comedy of the 1950s.

    I thought the fundamental prerequiste for military service was the willingness to kill or be killed for your country. Eco-warriors rarely meet that simple qualification.

  17. Dibnah permalink
    September 14, 2019 7:01 am

    60 ton Challenger tank powered by batteries?! That would be an achievement.

    • Henning Nielsen permalink
      September 14, 2019 7:49 am

      My childhood Jagdtiger model tank ran very well on its 1,5V battery, until the power ran out and I put the battery cables into the 230 V socket.

  18. September 14, 2019 7:17 am

    This must be an April Fools joke that got published on the wrong date. It is too easy to mix Friday 13th with April 1st.

  19. Derek Reynolds permalink
    September 14, 2019 7:32 am

    Pikes and slingshots anyone?

  20. Henning Nielsen permalink
    September 14, 2019 7:47 am

    Eco-friendly recruits equal eco-friendly cannon fodder, but what if the cannons themselves are veggies?

  21. martinbrumby permalink
    September 14, 2019 8:03 am

    Sorry to not entirely dismiss this policy (despite it being prima facie weapons-grade bullshit).

    Why would our beloved leaders want an army of eco-friendly recruits?

    Obviously not to combat the nation’s enemies, (or those who are determined to destroy our culture and history).

    Precisely the reverse.

    If you wanted a force to make grumpy old truth-sayers finally shut up, a bunch of eco-warriors will be just the ticket. And if some of them proved to be just a bit trigger happy, well, so much the better. They would have no concerns about being persued through the courts thirty years later.

    What they really don’t want is what they have now, some random patriotic grunts chancing upon Tommy Robinson at a motorway service and cheering him.

    Not what our elite want at all.

    Even Jezza and the limp-dems will get behind this. Eco-warriors with guns. Just the ticket.

    I predict this General will soon be a Field Marshall.

  22. Raymond Berry permalink
    September 14, 2019 9:03 am

    Please can you look at Sulphur Hexachloride which is leaking from windmills & Turbines.

  23. cajwbroomhill permalink
    September 14, 2019 9:23 am

    Return to horseback, with steeds given pills against their bowel movements.

  24. Phoenix44 permalink
    September 14, 2019 9:46 am

    And the Navy can get rid of all those nasty nuclear subs too and go back to the glorious age of Nelson.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      September 14, 2019 12:03 pm

      I am sure that the sight of a fleet of submarines, line astern with sails and flags billowing would render the enemy helpless (with hysterical laughter).
      And so (following their sensitivity meeting) the Royal Inclusives Marines would have them at their mercy except….

      • September 19, 2019 3:25 am

        The Royal Inclusives still have
        one weapon in their arsenal that any enemy should fear.

        See also here thru 10:43 if you want to see how a lion behaves.They don’t (yet) give the Iron Cross to pussycats.

        Trading lions for pussycats is foolish. (Should I even have to say that?)

  25. It doesn't add up... permalink
    September 14, 2019 10:32 am

    I do trust that this proposal has been ridiculed in the Telegraph letters column. If not, the editor is complicit in the folly.

  26. Phillip Beckley permalink
    September 14, 2019 10:49 am

    The Army apparently considers an expression of patriotism among potential recruits as dubious. I suppose it is indicative of our society that the Army prefers eco friendliness to patriotism. Food for thought.

  27. Tim Spence permalink
    September 14, 2019 11:06 am

    “I love the smell of biofuels in the morning” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  28. bobn permalink
    September 14, 2019 11:11 am

    Given the army is now commanded by an idiot, it must be time to disband the useless thing and replace it with an telephone recording saying ‘we surrender’. All the taxes saved can be returned to their righful owners who can buy guns and diesels to form a volunteer militia to do what the Army obviously doesnt want to do.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      September 14, 2019 11:41 am

      Well, it works for Switzerland…

  29. TinyCO2 permalink
    September 14, 2019 11:17 am

    I can’t think that the Venn diagram of the woke and those prepared to be in the military has much, if any overlap.

  30. September 14, 2019 11:31 am

    Don’t worry, there will always be lorries with diesel generators on board to re-charge the tanks when they are in battle. I just hope the other side are not using diesel powered tanks.

  31. September 14, 2019 12:27 pm

    Battlefield conversation, “Sergeant, I can’t eat the MRE……it’s not vegan.”

    • rah permalink
      September 14, 2019 6:08 pm

      This old sergeant would say. ‘You just ain’t hungry enough yet!’

      • September 16, 2019 11:46 am

        Well that ought to take care of them one way or another.

  32. September 14, 2019 12:39 pm

    He is only sayin g this to please the politicos. He would never imperill the efficency of the armed forces to satisfy eco nutjobs

  33. A Gwynn permalink
    September 14, 2019 12:48 pm

    yes, when I read this yesterday my reaction was the same..what utter nonsense…again , all based so called ‘climate change’…..C02 dissipates in the atmosphere ..always has, always will

  34. Vvgg permalink
    September 14, 2019 12:59 pm

    So the Army could phase out petrol and diesel vehicles in a bid to attract eco friendly recruits? (DT 13/90/19)

    ‘Quartermaster, where is the nearest charge point, we have overdone the advance.’
    ‘About 5 kms sir but that’s not the issue.’
    ‘OK QM, what is the issue then?
    ‘Well sir, at present rates of charge it will take around 20 hours to charge up.’
    ‘Oh.’
    ‘And that sir, assumes the wind is blowing on the wind farms.’
    ‘Ah, a bit difficult then. What about the enemy?’
    ‘They are on diesel sir, and about an hour away!’

    Commanding Officer Addresses Troops
    ‘Listen in Men, Woman and TG’s of Green Company A. I have to tell you that all is not well, we are losing the physical battle but as always winning the argument. The ammunition recycling team has been wiped out which means we are very short of ammo and unable to reply to the enemies’ illegal use of non-recyclable ammo. We will fight to the last and your loved ones will be proud that our bodies will be de carboned and added to the Green Monument in your local village or town.’

  35. Athelstan. permalink
    September 14, 2019 1:11 pm

    somewhere in the levant, a future op, boss on recce whispers, “right lads we’ve got some new kit for tonight’s job, solar powered electric transport”………….

    General gone soft in the head, apparently this guy was an SAS officer. I’d love to know what the boys in the regiment think, at a rough guess, the response, it would likely be, not very polite.

    • September 16, 2019 7:56 am

      Right chaps wind up the rubber bands on the helo just three more turns…

  36. Coeur de Lion permalink
    September 14, 2019 1:23 pm

    I know his dad quite well – also a General. We were students together at a prestigious defence college. I will ask him how his son has been so suckered.

    • rah permalink
      September 14, 2019 6:11 pm

      Usually when top Generals start saying such blatantly stupid stuff it’s because they have political ambitions.

  37. rah permalink
    September 14, 2019 6:16 pm

    BTW I see that Russia’s nautical Chernobyl has arrived at it’s “base”.

  38. September 14, 2019 8:34 pm

    Absolutely unbelievable and the appalling truth is that all such utterances are based on completely false science as outlined in the latest book I’ve just finished by Dr T Ball on supposed Human Caused Climate Change.

  39. Ed Gruberman permalink
    September 14, 2019 9:50 pm

    We could also just build killer robots and not need any recruits…

    • Athelstan. permalink
      September 15, 2019 10:13 am

      It might just be for hollywood now, but that will be the way of it, I’m pretty sure that the R&D boffins in; Russian, Chinese, US, UK, France military complexes are doing just that.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      September 16, 2019 8:51 am

      So long as they don’t put ‘Skynet’ in charge…

  40. mjr permalink
    September 15, 2019 7:57 am

    As, under the withdrawal agreement which may still apply if Brexit ever happens, our army comes under the control of the EEC See https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mays-secret-scandalous-surrender-of-our-defence/ (a military guy talking sense!!) And we all know how fanatical the EEC is about climate emergency. .So maybe this general is seeing which way the wind blows and is getting his green credentials out there in advance

    • September 15, 2019 8:00 am

      The military have previous for this.
      Remember the charge of the light brigade.

  41. Rudolf Hucker permalink
    September 15, 2019 11:04 am

    If out forces take notice of this Tripe,they will become the Shooting yourself in the Foot Brigade!!!

  42. mikewaite permalink
    September 15, 2019 7:25 pm

    “I am the very model of a modern major general
    And all my trust is placed in models mathematical
    I absolutely hate all measurements empirical
    and aim to fight all wars by methods ecological
    I am the very model of a modern major general ”

    (apologies to WS Gilbert )

  43. George L permalink
    September 15, 2019 11:16 pm

    “Climate Change” due to fossil fuel CO2
    The biggest fraud in the history of science.

  44. September 16, 2019 7:53 am

    Bicycles? Warn the advancing enemy that if they don’t cease and desist forthwith we’ll send them Al Gore.

  45. September 16, 2019 9:59 pm

    What’s the point of having a functioning army when you have already surrendered?

  46. tom0mason permalink
    September 17, 2019 7:54 am

    Same as it ever was …
    During the Crimean War, a letter was reportedly sent home by a British soldier quoting a Russian officer who had said that British soldiers were “lions commanded by donkeys”
    (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_led_by_donkeys )

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