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India Ignores John Kerry

March 10, 2021
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By Paul Homewood

 

Harrabin strikes again!

 

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US climate change envoy John Kerry has urged the world’s top 20 polluters which create 81% of emissions between them to reduce CO2 immediately.

He was speaking after meeting Prime Minister Boris Johnson and other senior UK figures in London to plan two upcoming international climate summits.

He praised the UK for phasing out coal, and for its "ambitious" climate goals.

But he told BBC Newsnight that the UK – along with other major nations – must deliver their proposed emissions cuts.

"China, the US, Russia, India, the EU, Korea, Japan and others all have to be part of this effort," he said. "Twenty countries. Eighty one percent of the emissions."

Asked during the interview whether the UK should be planning a controversial new coal mine in Cumbria, he replied: "The marketplace has made a decision that coal is not the future.

"All over the world people have made a decision to move to cleaner fuel than coal, which is the dirtiest fuel in the world. In America and elsewhere …most banks will tell you we’re not going to fund a new coal plant."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56321456

 

Meanwhile back in the real world:

 

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NEW DELHI: State-run Coal India Ltd (CIL) has approved 32 mining projects in the current financial year till January, which may see investment to the tune of around Rs 47,300 crore as the company seeks to replace imports and move towards its 1 billion tonne coal production target by 2023-34.

While 24 of the 32 are an expansion of the existing projects, the rest eight are new greenfield projects. “Scripting a record high…CIL approved 32 coal mining projects in the current fiscal till January 2021,” the PSU said. CIL board and boards of the respective subsidiary companies have given their nod for the move
The combined incremental peak capacity of these projects is projected at 193 million tonnes per annum (mtpa). 

CIL’s three subsidiaries South Eastern Coalfields, Central Coalfields and Mahanadi Coalfields with 167 mtpa form the bulk at 86.5 per cent. This will be in addition to the already sanctioned capacity of 303.5 mtpa. India’s coal users imported a record 248.5 million tons of the fuel in FY20. The miner has lined up a total investment of about Rs 92,000 crore for its coal projects with an aim to achieve one billion production target  which include likely investment in coal evacuation infrastructure, mining infrastructure, project development and social infrastructure. However, CIL is also coming up with an estimated likely investment of about Rs 1.26 lakh crore involving 506 projects which include likely investment in clean coal and diversification initiatives.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/business/2021/mar/09/coal-india-approves-32-mining-projects-worth-rs-47300-cr-2274159.html

To put these numbers into perspective, the sanctioned projects totalling 167 and 303 Mtpa, making 470 Mt, compare to India’s current coal output of 756 Mtpa. As the article states, the plan is to reach 1 billion tonnes by 2024.

A crore is 10 million, so Rs 92000 crore equates to roughly £9bn.

 

Cumbria Mine

The interviewer, Emily Maitlis, plainly attempted to draw Kerry into influencing the Cumbrian mine decision, something that would be totally improper for a US politician:

Asked during the interview whether the UK should be planning a controversial new coal mine in Cumbria,

Maybe she should have explained to him that it is a metallurgical coal mine, for making coke and not burning in power stations. It is clear that Kerry knew nothing about it all, no doubt to the disgust of the BBC who have been treating it as if it were some global calamity, as he obviously did not know it was for coking. If he had, he would have had to admit that the US is still producing and exporting millions of tonnes of the stuff every year. Indeed, last year 800,000 tonnes of it came straight here!

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https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/quarterly/

 

Kerry knows full well that there is no practical alternative to the use of coke in iron and steelmaking.

Maybe he should tell Roger Harrabin!

41 Comments
  1. Broadlands permalink
    March 10, 2021 4:02 pm

    John Kerry and the others so concerned about CO2 should know by now that all those who cut their carbon emissions as a result of the pandemic travel lockdowns have suffered severe economic and social damages. Does he really expect a different result once the pandemic is over? If so, he should explain it before jetting off to another climate conference.

  2. StephenP permalink
    March 10, 2021 4:03 pm

    Has nobody told Kerry that the Cumbrian mine is to produce coking coal for steel making.
    The alternative is to import coal from abroad or give up steelmaking in the UK. Instead it will be made elsewhere in plants with less efficient emissions control.

    The sad thing is that there has been such a fuss made by activists that the Cumbrian planning authority are reconsidering the planning permission for the mine.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      March 10, 2021 4:54 pm

      It’s not Kerrywho needs telling, but Maitlis.
      Be interesting the response from her if someone tweeted her to tell her…

  3. Dr Ken Pollock permalink
    March 10, 2021 4:10 pm

    I have written to support Cumbria Council in their intention to open the new coal mine. The only point against it is image. Every other metric makes it sensible. Where will the steel come from for all those wonderful wind turbines if not from the UK? Is it better to import it all, with the CO2 emitted in a foreign country? Yes, of course, if you are only interested in virtue-signalling and not reality. Can we please demonstrate some courage for a change, in this world of giving in to the loudest voices, even when their demands are not sensible?

    • Tim Leeney permalink
      March 10, 2021 4:18 pm

      What is this marketplace he mentions?

      • Micky R permalink
        March 10, 2021 5:44 pm

        Market place! Coal is the cheapest and most reliable source of baseload electricity.

    • March 10, 2021 9:24 pm

      Do not forget the CO2 is a plant food and is a food plant resulting in green grass all over the planet and as such is needed. Scrap it at your peril?

  4. LeedsChris permalink
    March 10, 2021 4:45 pm

    It is beyond belief how India and China continue to get a ‘free pass’ on these issues. IF, as is the case, India and China are making the biggest investments and increases in power infrastructure then why shouldn’t they be making that investment in what the greens see as the latest future’ technologies of renewables. Equally, IF the argument the greens use that renewable energy is now the cheapest, how come China and India aren’t making all their energy infrastructure investments green infrastructure. The reality of course is that the ‘useful idiots’ in the west (politicians, mainstream media) are simply hastening our economic decline and helping China, India and others take over. Headlines today suggest we’re about to lose what’s left of our steel industry because UK energy is so expensive ..

    • Broadlands permalink
      March 10, 2021 5:00 pm

      The Chinese have already done a great job on the West. The sent us a virus that got rid of Donald Trump and crumpled our economies. Killed a lot of people. And they have captured much of the world’s strategic minerals while opening new coal mines and building new and more efficient coal-fired plants. Killing a few of their own in the process doesn’t count for much in their eyes. And we blindly carry on with climate change the biggest worry??

      Something’s wrong with that picture.

    • March 10, 2021 8:58 pm

      Chris Leeds ” the ‘useful idiots’ in the west (politicians, mainstream media) are simply hastening our economic decline and helping China, India and others take over. ” I see no reason to think this is not the objective being sought.

  5. Ian Miller permalink
    March 10, 2021 5:24 pm

    Having written to my Conservative MP on this subject, Other than an acknowledgement of my letter I don’t even get a reply is UNBELIEVABLE but true. !!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      March 10, 2021 9:34 pm

      Not really – you are unimportant until 2024. And even then if you don’t live in a marginal constituency then they could save us the bother of the charade of voting.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        March 11, 2021 8:58 am

        True but marginal could be 10-15% these days. Between Covid and Green nonsense there might be that many ex-Tories who have finally had enough, particularly as Corbyn is no longer the alternative.

  6. Mack permalink
    March 10, 2021 5:57 pm

    John Kerry – the gift that keeps on giving to we happy few on the skeptical side of the climate argument. A man who has the carbon footprint of a banana republic and a similar attitude to keeping the great unwashed in the West firmly under the elitist cosh. With several residences and cars to his name and a private jet that he utilises to fly around the planet collecting gongs for his environmental good works while lecturing the rest of us to, em reduce flying, whilst opposing the erection of a wind farm in the Nantucket Sound because it would spoil the view from one of his houses, he has a derserved place in the Climate Hypocrisy Hall of Fame. I dare say, Emily dispensed her usual Rottweiler demeanour in questioning the ‘Green Wraith’ and lay down and played poodle in the presence of such an honest ambassador of net zero?

    • dennisambler permalink
      March 10, 2021 6:05 pm

      John Kerry – Big Beanz

  7. MrGrimNasty permalink
    March 10, 2021 5:57 pm

    India, China, Africa, Mexico………. It’s a long list currently embracing new coal power generation.

    To imagine the UK can unilaterally save the climate (even if it needed saving) by burning forests and hacking insects/birds/bats out of the sky, and reducing productive meadows to trampled weedy grass on compacted shaded soil underneath solar installations?

    Insane

  8. March 10, 2021 6:02 pm

    ‘The marketplace has decided’?
    Is Kerry as dopey as he seems?

    I’m sick to death of all the propaganda emanating from governments and the media across the western world. One might be forgiven for thinking they are hell-bent on our economic obliteration and social destruction.
    Why would that be?

    I too have written to my ‘Conservative’ MP (who just happens to be Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Minister for, inter alia, all things green) and had a meaningless reply from a factotum. I have written again asking (amongst other things) how the government intends that all the extra electricity will be generated that will be needed from 2030. If it’s with windmills, where will they be made and how much ‘carbon dioxide’ will be released in their making, maintenance and decommissioning. And where will they be sited.

    I also asked what would be the effect on the earth’s temperature and weather if Britain goes ‘carbon neutral’ by 2030.

    In her first jargon-filled reply, Mrs Trevelyan said that ‘low carbon bio-energy’ had ‘helped Britain move to a low-carbon energy mix’.
    I have asked her to explain what this means.

    I await her reply.

  9. Cheshire Red permalink
    March 10, 2021 6:18 pm

    If you link today’s stories together there’ll soon be no need for a new ‘controversial’ (b*ll*x to the BBC for that pejorative word yet again) because the UK won’t have a steel industry.

    We’re governed by absolute morons.

  10. Gamecock permalink
    March 10, 2021 6:34 pm

    “most banks will tell you we’re not going to fund a new coal plant”

    Ignoracracy. Banks don’t make such loans; industrialists don’t finance with banks.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      March 11, 2021 8:56 am

      Yes they do. Not sure where you get that idea from? Many energy projects, particularly in the developing world are financed by bank lending, often with support from multilateral institutions like the World Bank.

      There has been huge pressure from governments on banks to stop such lending.

      • Gamecock permalink
        March 11, 2021 10:40 pm

        World Bank isn’t a bank.

  11. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    March 10, 2021 7:11 pm

    Always liked Indians. Lurch is a moron.

  12. Penda100 permalink
    March 10, 2021 7:19 pm

    Wisdom from India, insanity from the west. Giving people a better life today will always beat shaving a hypothetical 1 or 2 degrees off the unknown temperature in 80 years time.

    • Penda100 permalink
      March 10, 2021 7:21 pm

      *Sorry I should have added”except where the lunatics run the asylum “.

  13. stevejay permalink
    March 10, 2021 7:19 pm

    As Drax has increased its pollution by 135% since going 50% biomass, surely biomass must be the dirtiest fuel in the world. Unless you count animal dung.

  14. It doesn't add up... permalink
    March 10, 2021 7:29 pm

    I suspect Andrew Neil would have asked Kerry about his carbon footprint, and whether if he opposed the Cumbrian mine, he was only doing so to further US coking coal exports.

  15. Frank permalink
    March 10, 2021 7:35 pm

    While I write this comment, 7.15pm Wednesday 10th March, there is a Live Broadcast on BBC Parliament from the Commons, a new debate “UN Climate Change Summit Spending” asked for by the MP for Bristol West, (isn’t that the Council that lost many millions of Tax Payers cash recently in a massively failed “Green “Energy” scheme or did I imagine that?). The Conservative MP for Bolton West, Chris Green, raised some really sensible points about the Cumbrian Coal Mine, and the alternative of purchasing and transporting poor quality coal from around the world, he also described the need for sensible and RELIABLE sources of Energy. He was shot down by Mathew Perrycook, the Shadow Business Energy and Industrial Strategy spokesman, who suggested that the “communative (sic) emissions from the mine would have an impact on our Nett Zero target, and our credibility ahead of the COP Summit”. I imagine he means that if people go to work they will emit emissions so the solution must be to shut down Industry altogether? The Credibility thing is it of course…..
    Alok Sharma who has been appointed President of COP 26 then spoke and is still speaking. He rattled off all the usual things, fires in Australia and America, glaciers melting, sea rising, etc etc last year was the hottest ever recorded etc. etc; We are lost are we not?

  16. StephenP permalink
    March 10, 2021 8:02 pm

    One possible bright spot on the horizon is Andrew Neill and colleagues planning to start up GB News, an anti-woke TV channel that says it will ask the questions the current MSM ignore.
    The MSM are already getting in a panic and bad-mouthing them, and some organisations are trying to blackmail advertisers from using them.
    We will see what we will see, I hope that it is a success.

  17. March 10, 2021 8:10 pm

    Tragically, John Kerry has yet to set foot in the real world. And yes, a mind thrown away is a tragedy.

  18. March 10, 2021 9:11 pm

    Compare Kerry’s actual words in the Newsnight video
    with the way Harra and reporting spun them

    \\ Asked during the interview whether the UK should be planning a controversial new coal mine in Cumbria, he replied: “The marketplace has made a decision that coal is not the future.//
    FALSE : that cut makes it sound like he’s talking about that specific mine
    Harra has cut off the “GENERALLY speaking” at the beginning and “FUEL”
    at the end.

    • March 10, 2021 9:51 pm

      As I suspected, Kerry did not have a clue about what the Cumbrian mine is. Maitlis was obviously trying to trick him into condemning the govt.

      In reality the rest of the world don’t give two hoots about Cumbria, which the BBC are trying to build up into something of global importance

      • March 11, 2021 1:38 pm

        ALSO In reality many of the UK Climate-cult don’t give two hoots about Cumbria
        The likes of Harra/Maitlis and the Green hedgefunds
        would OK planning permission for the SAME land
        if it were to be filled with concrete windfarm plinths, windfarm access roads, and solar panel racks.
        Some believes that these pathetic actions are somehow saving the planet
        others knowing its good for their bank balance, before they sell it on to some mug.

  19. Farmerphil permalink
    March 10, 2021 9:23 pm

    Bring on the people’s revolution and get rid of these turd’s once and for all.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      March 10, 2021 11:13 pm

      Well actually Phil…….I have “retired” early from working as a subcontractor in the energy industry and decided to write a novel about a group of individuals who have had enough of this madness and decide to take direct action. Remember those fuel protests of 2000 by farmers and lorry drivers against fuel tax rises?. In my novel I will be detailing how a group organise themselves to wantonly collapse the UK power grid by committing no crime. There are lots of twists and turns with various sub plots in the style of a crime thriller. The key thing revolves around organising simultaneous action – there is an interesting poem by Liverpool poet Brian Patten that starts “I have changed the numbers on my watch” – I shall say no more.

      • March 11, 2021 1:42 pm

        Ray think about stitchups; write in a few undercover provocateurs who both initiate the action
        and deliberately screw it up,
        as they fade into the background leaving others to pay the price.
        I’m thinking Of what happened at The Capitol.

      • stevejay permalink
        March 11, 2021 2:27 pm

        Ray. This sounds interesting. You could have all the bad guys ending up in the asylum. Except this has already happened, it’s in Westminster.
        Keep us posted.

  20. March 11, 2021 1:30 am

    “The marketplace has made a decision that coal is not the future.”

    Why do we need climate fear then I wonder

  21. Shoki Kaneda permalink
    March 11, 2021 4:54 am

    “India Ignores John Kerry”
    It’s too bad everyone doesn’t.

  22. Phoenix44 permalink
    March 11, 2021 8:53 am

    Another liar. The market hasn’t chosen not to use coal nor have “people”. Coal has either been banned or slapped with additional costs to make it uncompetitive.

    Climate change has turned vast swathes of our media and political establishment into habitual liars.

  23. March 13, 2021 1:25 pm

    Kerry urges top polluters to cut emissions.

    Polluters?

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