Unelected climate advisers attack Boris Johnson for putting COP26 at risk
By Paul Homewood
GWPF calls for the CCC to be abolished:
The unelected climate activists and green energy lobbyists who run the Climate Change Committee have turned the institution into a radical opposition party that is effectively undermining the government, damaging Britain’s image and credibility both at home and abroad.
While Lord Deben, the CCC’s chairman, attacks Boris Johnson over his failing climate policy, the Climate Change Committee is calling on the government to “kill off business travel to maintain Covid’s green benefits,” a mad proposal that would almost certainly kill thousands of UK businesses and tens of thousands of jobs.
It is high time to abolish the current structure of the Climate Change Committee and institute a radical reform of scientific government advice.
Two years after the U.K. government enshrined in law a target to reach net zero emissions by 2050, strategies covering everything from transport to home heating have been scrapped, delayed, or fell short when they were published, the Climate Change Committee said Thursday.
As a result, Johnson’s promises may ring hollow with other leaders when they convene in Glasgow, Scotland, later this year for a round of global talks known as COP26, said John Gummer, chairman of the committee. As COP26 president, the U.K. will need to encourage other nations to set their own mid-century decarbonization goals, putting the world on a path to limit global warming to 1.5 Celsius.
Other countries “want us to say and do the same thing. And if we do that, then I think we can make a real success of COP26,” said Gummer, who is also a member of Parliament’s upper chamber, the House of Lords. “If we don’t, then it seems to me that it puts the whole process into jeopardy.”
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Bonfire of the Quangos time? I’ve got matches and petrol.
Abolished with feeling!
The Climate Change Committee has never come up with any useful policies or good ideas and it now appears to be undermining the Prime Minister weeks before COP26. The Committee should be scrapped and its Chairman asked to step down before COP26 kicks off.
Asked? Ordered!
JF
As with all these people “After YOU”
6:06pm ITV local news COP26 #PRasNews
Claims that various flooding on Henry Ward’s farm at Short Ferry, Lincolnshire
(strange name, I bet it never had floods before ../sarc
He’s the son of the PR savvy Andrew @Wheat_Daddy)
)
.. “more extreme weather caused by Global Warming”
Second strand ‘we can produce more food with less resources
– young Kate Adams NFU spoke
“we must have more eco farming”
… report from vertical farm
– report from John Grant a Hallam Uni Cli Activist Scientist
Looks like magic home hydroponics at his home garden
Presenter “race to prevent looming Climate Crisis”
Third strand : Climate Stripes graph .. that was also promoted the other day
“What we can all do in the months leading up COP26”
“Here look today at one place in the Arctic circle it’s 33C”
…. WeatherIsNotClimate but #ItsOKWhenWeDoIt
Be prepared for more hysteria in the lead up to COP26. The Greens are getting desperate as they sense that they cannot win, so they will resort to increasing demands for ‘action’.
There have been 25 previous COP conferences without any effect on the rise in CO2 levels, and COP26 was postponed without the climate collapsing.
Two thirds of CO2 emissions come from countries who have no intention of reducing them. Meanwhile countries that went into renewables following Green diktats are having problems with electricity supply, let alone the populace getting restive about the cost.
In news you won’t hear on the BBC a Commission in Victoria has reported on the Labor government scheme for solar panels in scathing terms, pointing out that there is no evidence that they reduced CO2 emissions. Just a waste of money.
Graeme: No they are not , they are winning on every front – without opposition. Its a slam dunk.
Vernon, you are entirely correct, the Greens have tanks on our front lawns.
Vernon, absolutely correct.
We have lost miserably and the damage to the UK (and the West) will be enormous. Similar to the effects of WWII. Maybe worse.
Eventually, no doubt, the truth will be obvious. But by then, it will be too late.
Now Boris wants to make the UK a global leader in Science. Not that he would recognise real science if it stood up in his soup. But, of course, he means the pseudo science exemplified by the likes of Phil Jones, David King, Richard Betts, Neil Ferguson, Susan Mitchie and hoards of other fraudsters. All picked by HMG and lavishly paid by taxpayers
I can remember when the UK was, indeed, a global leader in Science – and much besides. Thoroughly dismantled over the last thirty years.
Vladimir Putin is an evil man. Perhaps the worst Russian leader since Stalin. But he’s no mug. We’d probably be better with him in charge and cut out the posturing incompetents.
It would at least be interesting to see how long it took before the likes of Deben and the Jihadis and the GangGreen scum all suddenly disappeared.
It’s best to think of Putin as Mafia Don
Faux “greens” are Winning in Australia as well..they all personally use fossil fuels for their homes and cars…but have managed to destroy most of our grid and stopping mining as often as they can.We sit on some of the worlds largest coal and gas deposits, we are not allowed to tap into most of them and ship most of our gas overseas..and the papers blather non about “renewables” being “price competitive” because the stupid journalists dont understand how the Renewable energy Certificates work…
Sorry,
I still think that the tide has turned and is slowly retiring. That report was on the
front page of The Australian. Then there was an article suggesting a new look at nuclear, and another one today bemoaning the slump in renewable project.
There was a time when these would have been ignored, even by a paper which aims for a more conservative audience than, say, “our ABC”. Also our former Leader of the Greens has lost a case against logging in Tasmania (his home State) and the Federal Environment Minister has stopped a big renewables project on “environmental grounds”.
And the weather has not cooperated with the Greens with a cool summer and a cold autumn.
And we have some change in our Federal government as the new* Deputy P.M. is well known as a climate sceptic.
*actually recycled from some years ago. He will make it more difficult for Green ideas to get traction.
Martin Brumby, that was quite funny, where does this perception of Putin as a hardcore stalinist even come from? Is this what your media is telling you?
You wouldn’t believe how brimming our government is with all sorts of incompetents. From pseudoscientific cooks and religious fundamentalists, to power-tripping petty tyrants making up new laws just because they can, to corrupt embezzlers funneling billions out of the budget to their offshore bank accounts.
Putin is many things, and indeed he is a morally questionable autocrat, but one thing he is definitely not is that mythical “saviour” figure that purges all those pesky bad people you don’t like.
Someone like Deben or Ferguson would be right at home in the Russian government.
Sobaken.
Perhaps I expressed myself poorly.
I think Putin seems intelligent, if wicked. Just like ‘Uncle Joe’ Stalin, in fact.
I am under no illusion whatever about the number and arrogance of your incompetent bureaucrats and politicians – possibly even worse than in the UK, Europe and the USA.
(Some glimmers of hope, thank God, in Oz, as Graeme No.3 points out.)
But can you seriously imagine Putin allowing the likes of Gummer or Ferguson to drive “Climate” (energy) or “Health” (economic activity) in Russia?
I can’t. Not for two minutes.
I’m sure Putin would find both of them nice jobs which had no direct impact on the wealth and power of himself and his chums.
But I can’t see him allowing Extinction Rebellion bringing Moscow to a standstill any more than allowing a situation where a Libyan nervous ‘Islamic terrorist’ type, with a 32kg backpack stuffed with explosives remained free to hang around the lobby and exits of a big pop concert for 75 minutes, because the ‘security’ staff was more scared of being called “Racist” than they were of him actually being a terrorist. Or, for that matter allowing 100,000 Russian school girls to be groomed and raped by Pakistani Islamists rather than risk being accused of ‘Islamaphobia’.
I’m sure Vlad spends about as much time worrying about the ‘Climate Emergency’ as he does about transgender bathrooms. Quite rightly.
As I said, he is no mug.
Gummer’s Gang have been complaining that Boris should have started ripping out our gas boilers, banning our non-electric cars and stopping us from eating dairy products and meat. I remember when Gummer was stuffing a beef burger in his daughter’s mouth in the middle of the mad cow disease crisis. Well done, GWPF for calling for the CCC to be abolished.
Well that just shows the typical Hypocracy in the general system of our illiterate Rulers .
“Two years after the U.K. government enshrined in law a target to reach net zero emissions by 2050…”
Where have they “enshrined” the target amount of CO2 required to be captured and stored to reach Net-zero in 30 years? Do they even understand that Net-zero is not the same as zero? Maybe if they were told the difference they might change their minds?
“…the difference…”
Many people seem in a muddle where stocks and flows are concerned.
Meanwhile, unusual late snow in Greenland:
http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/
“Warming is such a sneaky thing. It claims the territory of Cold.”
I think we should get down to thinking up ways of combatting, not climate change, but the constant brain washing of the population into believing that if we must self flagellate with over paying for electricity and over paying for goods made in this country using expensive energy, whilst sensible countries in the far east that do not penalise themselves, can undercut our industry.
I just hope COP26 is a dismal failure.
I think we should get down to thinking up ways of combatting, not climate change, but the constant brain washing of the population into believing that we must self flagellate with over paying for electricity and over paying for goods made in this country using expensive energy, whilst sensible countries in the far east that do not penalise themselves, can undercut our industry.
I just hope COP26 is a dismal failure.
The easiest way of combatting climate change hysteria is awaiting the arrival of the first, and on current trajectories, inevitable, ‘black sky’ event when the Western European electricity grid collapses due to an over reliance on intermittent renewables, lack of reliable back up, over burdened interconnectors and uncooperative weather. 3-5 days of continent wide blackouts with huge societal impacts might be the only way to make the clowns who are currently running government policy wake up to the implications of their actions.
Mack, I think you overestimate the prevalance of common sense. They will just juxtapose the situation and re-frame the narrative. There are no rules in this game.
They just double down…”if we only had more intermittents this would not have happened “
I think this is the first huge mistake the CCC have made. Boris is the one person who can screw them and they have attacked him. Blue touch paper lit and I look forward to the fireworks.
Really? I think he’ll be too busy “building back in a more gender neutral, feminine way”. He’ll most likely acquiesce to the demands of these charlatans in the same way he has to his doom-mongering covid advisors and their bogus models. And at night, Princess Nut-Nut will tell him what a good boy he’s been for implementing her year-zero eco-loon policies.
8pm “Brilliant interview with @afneil on @GBNEWS
Roger Hallam (XR founder) is the funniest thing I’ve seen on TV in a long time.
Proper fruit loop.”
….. https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1408097340213317635
Andrew Neil
“But the richest pickings for the Boss-Class are related to Climate Change”
…. https://youtu.be/_j4Lgpj5mfo?t=81
But the richest pickings for the boss class are related to climate.
This opens a veritable cornucopia of bossiness.
Local politicians in the West Midlands think you should stay at home even post-pandemic to help with their “accelerated pathway” to cut carbon dioxide emissions.
This morning the government’s Climate Change Committee said
we should be eating 20% less meat and dairy produce by 2030,
35% less by 2050.
Vegans are urging that it should be 100% less.
The Committee is also keen you should continue working from home.
And it wants to slap new taxes on flying, waste and other industries.
Along with various agencies it’s also limbering up to tell you to rip out your gas boiler.
And the Environment Bill currently going through parliament could require households to Use four separate bins — one each for glass, metal, plastic, and paper and card.
Plus a further three for garden waste, food waste and non-recyclables.
You might have lost your job in the pandemic.
But the boss class will never be out of work.
When it comes to meddling in our lives, it’s only just begun.
https://www.gbnews.uk/shows/andrew-neil-meddling-bosses-wont-stop-interfering-in-our-lives-even-after-covid/108057
The Roger Hallam full 16 min interview has just been put up
… https://youtu.be/mQA8XIF1Apg
Sheesh! They should lock Hallam up with Icke and let them argue the toss. They’re both as mad as each other.
Well, that’s 16 minutes and 53 seconds I’ll never get back in my life! But at least I spent most of the time laughing. Hallam is certifiably insane and I can only imagine that he was off, after the interview, to his psychiatry outpatient appointment!
If he was the leader of Extinction Rebellion what does it say about his followers? In the general scheme of things leaders are usually a notch or two above their followers. And he is obviously a master communicator too; agreeing with the interviewer when it’s pointed out that he’s just been talking garbage!
Watched the interview live, sadly funny and crazy. Unfortunately, Andrew Neil is a lone figure espousing sense in the mighty meja.
Just keep hammering your MP with emails – even better, hard copy letters with plenty of references. Electroverse.net is another good source.
Sorry in f this is a bit long but!!!!.
What will eventually bring down this whole net zero fiasco will be reality and the realisation that hard figures are what matters. The “Carbon Intensity” of the UK grid is now increasing as a major part of what is defined as “low carbon” generation (i.e. Nuclear) is closing down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-cycle_greenhouse_gas_emissions_of_energy_sources
https://www.mygridgb.co.uk/last-12-months/
Nuclear is shown as a median value of 12g CO2 per kWh. Dungeness B is now closed, Hunterston B and Hinkley Point B will close in 2022, Heysham 1 and Hartlepool will go in 2024, Torness and Heysham 2 probably 2028. 9GW of continuous generation simply will not be compensated for by renewables even at present levels of generation and the shortfall will inevitably be made up by CCGT which have a median quoted emission rate of 490g CO2 per kWh generated.
So the whole modus operandi of this crazy attempt at emissions mitigation will fail EVEN AT current levels of generation as electricity emissions rise. However, the real shock horror will come from increasing generation to charge EVs in lieu of transport emissions. The way emissions for EVs versus ICE are compared is currently FALSE.
Switching from an ICE to an EV reduces oil based emissions but simultaneously increases electricity demand. As low carbon generation is already accounted for by existing demand, the incremental EV demand can only be met by dispatchable generation i.e. fossil fuelled.
Using the median numbers for CCGT generation gives 490g CO2 per kWh BUT this is at point of generation.
National Grid claim 1.7% losses in HT transmission with DNOs losing between a further 5 to 8% in the low voltage distribution network. Working on an overall median loss of 8% means that the 1kWh at the charger was actually 1.1kWh at point of generation thus 533g CO2. Now there is the question of charging losses. This report found Teslas having up to 14% charging losses after transmission losses.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36062942/evs-explained-charging-losses/
This effectively means the 1kWh in the battery was in reality 1.3kWh at the CCGT worth 620g CO2. What Car give the best real world mileage for EVs as the Hyundai Kona at 3.6 miles (5.8km) per kWh in the battery.
https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/e1ofS/1/
So the upshot of this is the Hyundai Kona above will have emissions of 620g divided by 5.8km equalling 107grams CO2 per km. Many modern mild hybrids running solely on petrol are actually much better than that figure with for example the Fiat 500 at 88g. Further developments in ICE technology (including automotive thermoelectric generators replacing alternators and charging hybrid batteries) have the potential to reach PHEV values of under 50g.
One day soon the repercussions of all this idiocy will be realised.
the BEEB seem to have sidelined Lord Deben, using the trendy Chris Stark
Chief Executive as the “go to person” for eco comment/criticism on why the UK is failing on it’s “targets” on net zero by 2050 ?
you can tell they all have zero Idea what that will entail & it really pisses me off that they don’t seem to understand what a “target” means!!!
you set a target & aim high (for the bullseye) but you rarely hit it (that’s how life/the world works you idiots)
Just been listening to the World at One – a BBC “news” programme for us overseas — in an effort to terrify listeners, Sir David King pointed to temperatures in Finland now varying 30º between morning and night !!! Many listeners probably fell for it. And he fully endorsed everything the Climate Change Committee said.
The more hysteria the better, the chickens are coming home to roost for the likes of XR, Greenpeace and the CCC.
Never underestimate the ability of the man or woman in the street to call BS when they see it. People aren’t stupid and a trigger point is coming at which the pushback from the general public will be very strong. It will be an “over my dead body” moment and the Conservative Party will be back peddling so fast you won’t see them for dust.
Never forget the fuel tax protests, over something much less. I am looking forward to motorways brought to a standstill by tractors, lorries and cars rolling at 25 mph in all 3 lanes.
It takes just one wrong step and it will be knocked back in an instant. The climate nutters are over reaching and long may the hysteria continue. Wall to wall BBC coverage is another factor, along with Saint Greta. There is only so long you can claim just a few more years to save the world before before people say bollocks. If the middle classes start to push back the Conservative Party will drop it an instant, otherwise they are doomed. The poll tax brought down Thatcher, what do you think the public are going to do when gas boilers are banned or the only car you buy is an EV – sit and say nothing? Like hell.
The more hysterical nonsense the better. And more Andrew Neil, the last proper journalist left on British TV.
I have posted about this before. Like you I feel direct action is required. I am actually trying to write a novel about this (for a covert reason!?) Essentially it is not that difficult at all to collapse the electricity grid – trust me on this, until recent retirement, energy infrastructure was my professional area.
The electricity supply system is largely designed to hold up against sudden unexpected loss of supply (and/or loss of transmission ability) such as a power station trip, as well as to a lesser degree against a sudden (but predictable) increase in demand i.e. typically “TV pick up” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup
What the system is NOT prepared for is a sudden and unpredicted large demand surge. Whilst generators “system inertia” aids against supply loss, it can actually act as an impediment to a sudden demand surge. This is partly why the likes of Dinorwig pumped storage hydro came about.
If enough people in the right locations and at the right conditions could be organised to exactly simultaneously switch on high load electrical appliances (such as electric instant showers, electric double ovens and all hobs even EV chargers) the sudden demand surge could overpower the grid and set up a cascading blackout. It would be quite possible with the right concerted action to go beyond area blackouts and into a full national grid shutdown which would take days to recover from. It must be noted this is potentially extremely dangerous and will have all manner of unforeseen conclusions.
Knowing the when and where to take this action is not difficult and in fact, perhaps surprisingly, times of low demand and high renewables (wind and solar) input are some of the most ideal. The difficulty is not the number of participants ( switching on electrical appliances commits no normal offence and should be penalty free) but rather orchestrating the exact time of action….this is the subject of my novel which starts with a poem.
https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/i-have-changed-the-numbers-on-my-watch/
The boys in blue might start knocking on my door if it gets published!
Publish and be damned!!
If you believe you’ve been left with no other option (N.B. to protect property) then it is lawful to commit a crime inorder to prevent a greater crime.
e.g. during the fire of London it was lawful to pull a house down to prevent it spreading.
If you save innocent people from tyranny you actions cannot be at fault.
Our elected Politicians voted for net zero, because they think that is what the people want.
There is no political opposition to this policy, and I see no chance of any politician putting his head above the parapet, to call out this self inflicted disaster.
The new religion of global extinction, is just like the old religions, do not try to introduce logic when there is none.
Unelected and unaccountable Climate Change Committee …
Yet another ‘think tank’ whose rational thoughts have tanked.