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Ban European flights and car use in cities to hurt Putin, report urges

April 15, 2022

By Paul Homewood

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face!

 

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Flights should be banned in continental Europe and car use banned in city centres to save energy and prevent Vladimir Putin profiting from fossil fuel sales, campaigners have said.

It would be possible for Europe to quickly end its reliance on oil and gas from Russia by taking strong measures, according to a report by the climate adviser Mark Lynas, energy analyst Rauli Partanen, and energy and sustainability installations specialist Joris van Dorp.

Policies include rationing, with everyone in Europe allowed the same minimum amount of energy to use, and limiting thermostats to 18C in winter.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/08/slugs-ban-european-flights-cities-car-use-hurt-putin-russia-oil-gas-income-report

I’ve a much better idea. Let’s start investing again in oil and gas production worldwide, instead of demonising fossil fuels.

64 Comments
  1. James L. Neill permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:22 am

    Or political opportunism to push through a radical climate agenda using the War in Ukraine as a cover. Actually not unlike a particular Scottish politician’s clamour for independence at any and every opportunity!

  2. James L. Neill permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:28 am

    Or political opportunism to push through a radical climate agenda using the War in Ukraine as a cover. Actually not unlike a particular Scottish politician’s clamour for independence at any and every opportunity!

    • April 15, 2022 12:52 pm

      Of course they want to keep the bio labs and their money-laundering racket which Mr. Putin is bringing to an end.

      • Curious George permalink
        April 16, 2022 5:32 pm

        Long live Mr. Putin, the hero of Polonium.

  3. Neil Pryke permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:30 am

    Typical Guardian garbage.

    • Alan Keith permalink
      April 15, 2022 12:39 pm

      Simplified to one word, guarbage!

  4. Robert Christopher permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:37 am

    “limiting thermostats to 18C in winter”

    House to house calls required, which will require an additional enforcement organisation.

    They will also be able to check on your thinking. 🙂

    • Penda100 permalink
      April 15, 2022 2:21 pm

      Just think – all those well-paid Green jobs.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        April 15, 2022 2:53 pm

        I hope the company provides plenty of medical insurance, they’ll need it!

  5. Cheshire Red permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:46 am

    ‘Never let a crisis go to waste’ was seldom more apt.
    These report authors, the Guardian and the like are our own enemies within. They’re our 5th column. They cannot be allowed to win.

  6. Gerry, England permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:46 am

    Throw another activist, climate adviser, energy analyst or energy and sustainability installations specialist on the fire this coming winter to keep warm.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 15, 2022 11:01 am

      Ban their jobs and see how they enjoy that. After all, they seem quite sanguine about putting all those people who work for airlines and in tourism out of work.

  7. Phoenix44 permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:58 am

    And all this deliberate impoverishment will achieve what exactly?

    Whilst putting out of work tens of thousands of people?

    And closing thousands of businesses?

    • Stuart Hamish permalink
      April 16, 2022 7:31 am

      ” And all this deliberate impoverishment will achieve what exactly? ” ……… Turn the United Kingdom into an eco – socialist dictatorship …….. The effect of limiting or banning personal mobility and travel choices is to control people

      • April 16, 2022 8:18 am

        Stuart,

        I would say that this has been happening for some time?
        Incandescent lamps are not generally sold any longer.
        Banning both the sale of new gas boilers and petrol or diesel cars is happening shortly.
        There isi the rumblings going on about agriculture and the need to limit meat production.
        Are these measures something the average person asked for?
        Anything that is more efficient and provides an economy will naturally be taken up, with no legislation required.

  8. April 15, 2022 10:59 am

    We could also hurt Putin by calling him names. This would have the advantage of being less inconvenient than forcing society to regress 250 years.

    Meanwhile according to the Guardian URL, it looks as if unshelled gastropods have already taken over European governance and have banned flying.

    • Curious George permalink
      April 16, 2022 5:47 pm

      They are only banning flying and car using for you and me, not for themselves.

  9. April 15, 2022 11:29 am

    How dumb can you get (but it is the Grauniad). I can set my wall thermostat to 18C, but I can adjust the control valves on each radiator to get the temperature to a much higher value in all other rooms. And with the woodburner going, the sky’s the limit.

  10. April 15, 2022 12:36 pm

    18 deg C is bloody freezing by my reckoning. If they believe this rubbish they should be practicing what they preach already (fat chance)

    • StephenP permalink
      April 18, 2022 6:55 am

      I trust that their office thermostat is set to 18°C.
      If not, why not.

  11. Thomas Carr permalink
    April 15, 2022 12:38 pm

    Another instance of opinions being promoted as authority. The Guardian should understand the difference.

    • Gamecock permalink
      April 15, 2022 6:08 pm

      Actually, “you must follow the science” translates to “you must follow government orders.”

      You get better compliance when you call it “science.”

  12. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    April 15, 2022 12:54 pm

    You will own nothing and be happy. Or we could burn grauniadistas for heat…

  13. cookers52 permalink
    April 15, 2022 1:07 pm

    The first casualty of War is the truth.

  14. Realist permalink
    April 15, 2022 1:08 pm

    Idiotic idea to hurt ordinary people by banning use of transport.. What is really needed is a drastic reduction, ideally scrapping of the taxes on transport (aeroplanes, ferries) and of course both petrol and diesel for road transport.

  15. cookers52 permalink
    April 15, 2022 1:40 pm

    The reality is before Ukraine conflict, Europe paid and relied on Russian oil and gas. After the Ukraine conflict, Europe will pay and rely on the USA for gas and oil.

    • catweazle666 permalink
      April 15, 2022 1:55 pm

      I doubt it.
      After the Ukraine business settles down – and it will, Putin won’t be there for ever, Europe will continue primarily to rely on Russia for fossil fuels, it cannot afford not to.
      However, if only the UK can get its finger out, we ought to be able to flog them a quid or two’s worth ourselves.

    • Realist permalink
      April 15, 2022 3:14 pm

      Russian gas maybe, but surely most oil comes from elsewhere. And why is the tax in Europe so extortionate? That tax effectively quadruples the price of petrol and diesel at point of sale.

  16. catweazle666 permalink
    April 15, 2022 2:05 pm

    As I recollect, amongst other prophetic comments President Trump made some highly critical comments about the EU’s dependence on Russia’s fossil fuel dependence, for which he was soundly castigated by the ‘Usual Suspects’…

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 16, 2022 8:47 am

      And criticised places like Germany for getting nowhere near their commitment on defence spending and was castigated for that. Trump was a buffoon but he was right about a number of things.

  17. Devoncamel permalink
    April 15, 2022 2:18 pm

    The Grauniad, that cheerleading rag mag of the authoritarian illiberal left. This really is shallow tactics and I would remind them they have no right to tell me when and where I drive and how warm I want my house to be.

    • April 15, 2022 7:26 pm

      Don’t remind them — far too polite. Tell them to shove it where the sun don’t shine!

  18. Ian PRSY permalink
    April 15, 2022 2:45 pm

    “… limiting thermostats to 18C in winter.” Unless your name’s Boris!

  19. Malcolm permalink
    April 15, 2022 2:46 pm

    Of course the climate is changing Paul – it always has. Only 10,000 years ago (the blink of an eye in geological terms) Britain was covered in ice, hundreds of metres thick. No, this is lockdown again but by another name. Like most legacy media, the Grauniad is bought and owned.

  20. Martin Brumby permalink
    April 15, 2022 4:04 pm

    I wouldn’t insult my cat by using the Grauniad to line his litter tray.

    For those who still bother looking at it, two questions:-

    1) Do they still run all those adverts for European holidays? Tuscany and the Dordogne were favourites (not to mention Maldives, Grenada, Turks & Caicos etc.)

    2) Are they still owned by the same outfit that publishes Auto Trader?

    • dave permalink
      April 15, 2022 5:44 pm

      In answer to your Question 2 – No. But they are still living off the six-hundred million pounds they received for selling the AutoTrader, in 2014, to an outfilt named Apax . For at least another twenty years, they can afford to shovel their shit as the in-house magazine of the BBC.

      There have been some very interesting studies of how ‘institutional cultures’ propagate themselves through time with hardly any deviation. Like religions I suppose, and scientific traditions. The names of the people running the ‘businesses’ change but little else.

      • ColinMacdonald permalink
        April 16, 2022 11:34 pm

        Yes, it seems they “divested” from the fossil fuel enabling AutoTrader and are now white as the driven snow. Not. Of course the Graun is big on FF divestment in general, an effective form of virtue signalling which allows woke investors to pocket the loot, while appearing, well, virtuous.

  21. April 15, 2022 6:57 pm

    You have to be impressed by the shear effrontery of the tiny number of suspiciously well promoted people who produce these gems. They are not on the same planet as the rest of us.

  22. April 15, 2022 6:59 pm

    Their “mission” never changes, only the excuses change. They only have one record and they will put any words to it……. blablabla…saving the planet blablabla downsize…blablabla lower your expectations….blablabla we need more censorship to “save democracy…blablabla

    • Russ Wood permalink
      April 18, 2022 2:32 pm

      The Bloomberg report didn’t say FOR HOW LONG California ran on ‘clean energy”. I suspect that it was in units of minutes, rather than days…

  23. David permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:01 pm

    The 18 degree thing is obviously a ruse to kill off anyone over 60 with hypothermia. Maybe the silver lining would be to save the NHS from overworking their employees so much!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 16, 2022 8:50 am

      NHS employees and the Left seem to think that a person who does their job for the time they are at work is “overworked”.

      Having most beds in hospitals used us somehow “stretched to the limit.” And the bizarre solution to that is to have more beds!

      • April 18, 2022 2:09 am

        The Norwegians bless them have made it into an art form. Call any government agency and the recorded silicone voice does not welcome you and invite you to wait while they connect you. No, instead it weirdly informs you that they are ever so incredibly busy, (regardless of the reality of the situation), and they will, while stretched to the limit just by doing the job they are paid to do, will with superhuman effort connect you to a carbon based life form (usually in the wrong department) …….eventually….bless

    • April 18, 2022 1:59 am

      any relation to the magical 1.5deg C? Suppose the 18 deg was pulled out of thin air just like the 1.5 deg and run with.

  24. Graeme No.3 permalink
    April 15, 2022 10:06 pm

    “The state’s main grid ran on more than 97% renewable energy at 3:39 p.m. on Sunday April 3, breaking a previous record of 96.4% that was set just a week earlier”. Presumably they didn’t manage to do much afterwards.
    My home State (South Australia -home of Australia’s highest electricity) did better last summer when it ran on solar power for nearly an hour. Well, not really, it was just that demand apparently slumped to zero because so many houses have rooftop panels (the excess from those goes only into the local suburb and not into the State grid). So the gas plants that were working (important for stability) had to export their generation interstate at a loss.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 16, 2022 8:52 am

      A Sunday afternoon on that cusp when they are running neither heating not air conditioning nor TV nor cooking.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the low point for demand all year!

  25. Gamecock permalink
    April 16, 2022 12:10 am

    ‘Policies include rationing, with everyone in Europe allowed the same minimum amount of energy to use, and limiting thermostats to 18C in winter.’

    Pretty much the definition of communism: everyone suffering equally.

    “It would be possible for Europe to quickly end its reliance on oil and gas from Russia by taking strong measures, gleefully said Mark Lynas, Rauli Partanen, and Joris van Dorp.”

    Fixed it.

    You know, you could close the valves on the pipes. Just turn ’em off.

    Note that policies like rationing require a heavy dose of government. Government would actually love to manage scarcity, more than having plenty.

  26. Gamecock permalink
    April 16, 2022 12:23 am

    Everybody is hurtin’ Putin so much, why hasn’t he left Ukraine?

  27. Harry Passfield permalink
    April 16, 2022 9:39 am

    A simply MUST read in the DT today – about the nonsense that is ‘green’ hydrogen:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/04/16/great-hydrogen-swindle-green-gas-not-seems/

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      April 16, 2022 9:42 am

      …that said…it seems that comments don’t load. I wonder why.
      My take-away quote from the piece was: ‘So green hydrogen is really not one, but two dead whales, engaged in a gruesome act of congress.’
      Brilliant!!

  28. tomo permalink
    April 16, 2022 11:40 am

    a href=”https://twitter.com/AndrewSimms_uk/status/1515276683556831238″>Many Greens are simply delusional….

    Give us hundreds of ££Billionz££ – NOW!

  29. April 16, 2022 11:48 am

    Funny how one solution to the ‘fake conflict’ happens to mirror the plans for the Great Reset.

  30. Mad Mike permalink
    April 16, 2022 1:51 pm

    I can’t help thinking that the Covid crisis and now the war are being seized upon by the alarmists to introduce travel restrictions etc that might have been not tolerated before.

    • Realist permalink
      April 16, 2022 2:27 pm

      The attacks on mobility have been there since the “climate” and “green” alarmism started. look at the attacks on cars and flying. even ferries long before the Covid scaremongering

  31. April 16, 2022 1:52 pm

    We all could try cutting off our noses to spite our faces. Maybe that would work.

  32. Mad Mike permalink
    April 16, 2022 2:00 pm

    OK, let’s start by limiting the temperature in every government, both local and national, office to 18C this winter and we can include Buck House and Highgrove in that as well. Let’s see how they get on with that then.

    • Mad Mike permalink
      April 16, 2022 2:05 pm

      My wife has just said “Why don’t we start with the Guardian offices first.” I knew there was a reason I married her.

  33. Matthew Gregory permalink
    April 16, 2022 2:40 pm

    The deep state press reporting EU will ban Russian oil after Macron elected.

    • Realist permalink
      April 16, 2022 4:15 pm

      The France election isn’t over until April 24, but the establishment will declare its own candidate as “winner”, much like what happened in the last France and USA presidential elections.

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