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We don’t owe developing countries ‘climate reparations’ – they owe us

November 9, 2022

By Paul Homewood

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I see that the Government has come up with a daring new game. It’s called: Stress Testing the Loyalty of Conservative Voters Until They Finally Snap. Over 4,000 party members are believed to have quit since Liz Truss was forced out. Those of us who are rallying round our new Prime Minister, as he tries to steady the ship, probably felt rather pleased when he said that he would not be attending Cop27. The crisis at home is far too great to waste time grandstanding in a luxurious Egyptian resort, with 24,000 diplomats and 13,000 observers who are deeply worried about everyone’s carbon footprint, except their own. If "Not Much Cop" was serious about the climate emergency, why wasn’t it held on Zoom?

Don’t be daft. Such energy-saving measures are for the little people, like you and me, who dutifully do our recycling. Not for the hellfire-preaching eco-zealots who travelled in the 400 private jets that landed in Sharm el-Sheikh over the weekend.

As if that hypocrisy weren’t quite stomach-churning enough, the sponsor of this year’s jamboree was – brace yourselves! – Coca-Cola.

All together now: “We’d like to build the world a home and furnish it with love/Grow apple trees and honey bees but, unfortunately, we manufacture 120 billion throwaway plastic bottles a year which ruin natural habitats so the bees die.”

No further proof is needed that Cop27 is a bazaar of balderdash, I think. It’s a giant con trick perpetrated by global elites on trusting populations who like the sound of a greener, cleaner world (who doesn’t?) but who still have no idea of the vast cost and sacrifices that will be involved in reaching net zero. We are talking trillions of pounds. 

Rishi Sunak, who reversed his decision not to attend the conference, only added to the general air of ivory-tower, out-of-touchness when he appeared to commit the UK to something called “climate reparations”. It was easy to tell it was a terrible idea, because the BBC reported that “the good news from Cop27 is the loss and damage proposal claim”.

Basically, we are on the hook for untold billions to countries experiencing adverse weather conditions, because we invented factories. And cars. 

Surely, in the current economic climate, when people are worried about how to manage their very existence, the Government wouldn’t be mad enough to ask the British people to divert their taxes away from vital public services to “environmental reparations” for countries like Somalia, Kenya and Pakistan?

Ah, well, as Jeremy Hunt prepares to make up to £35 billion in spending cuts and around £25 billion in tax increases, at least Rick and Katy in Darlington, who are struggling to feed their three children after paying the gas bill, will be cheered by the thought that they are helping to fund Nairobi’s Railway City and Hydropower Project.

Rishi Sunak says this is “the right thing to do”. Sorry, Prime Minister, giving in to specious emotional blackmail from developing nations when your own countrymen are facing enormous hardship is not just wrong, it’s immoral. May I suggest a polite but firm response to requests for money we do not have along these lines: 

Dear Pakistan,

It was with some surprise that we learnt that you and other countries, including Bangladesh, Kenya, Mauritius and even China, would be seeking “climate change reparations” from the United Kingdom at this week’s Cop27 summit. Apparently, you (and Ed Miliband) think that the terrible floods Pakistan suffered recently are entirely the fault of industrialised Western countries like our own because of historic carbon emissions.

While there may be some truth in that, other experts have suggested that the reason Pakistan experiences such terrible flooding is because you have cut down all your trees. Pakistan has the highest rate of deforestation in the world. When your nation was created in 1947, 33% of the total land mass was covered by forests; now that area is only 5%. Because of the lack of trees, the rain runs straight off the mountains into the silted up reservoirs which then overflow.

In addition, we would like to point out that Pakistan has always had major floods, many just as catastrophic as the recent one. The 1950 flood, for example, killed twice as many people as the 2022 flood within a much lower population. Not every natural disaster can be blamed on the United Kingdom, gratifying and lucrative though that accusation may be.

Pakistan is already one of the UK’s biggest recipients of aid. In 2019/20, you received around £302 million from our heavily indebted country, spanning areas including human development, climate and the environment. Most British people would consider that quite a generous gift to a nation which has its own nuclear weapons and a space programme. Pakistan also has more than a thousand coal mines. We do wonder whether you have any concerns about their impact or was it just British coal mines which caused a problem?

Plus, the present population of Pakistan is 225 million (up from 65 million in 1970) which will inevitably add to pressure on the environment. Sorry, there’s not a whole lot we can do about that.   

The proposition, as we understand it, is that Pakistan should now receive “loss and damage” compensation from UK for the “cost” of historic emissions. How is that bill to be calculated exactly?

We remain proud of our Industrial Revolution which freed millions of ordinary people from back-breaking servitude, as well as causing a vast and sudden increase in life expectancy. For centuries, the average lifespan in the UK barely rose above 36 years. By 1901, life expectancy had jumped to 45 years (men) and 50 years (women), due to an increase in wealth, the production of cheaper goods, healthier diets and better education.

The UK will neither apologise nor make amends for the Industrial Revolution whose beneficial effects continue to be felt every day around our world.

Should you persist in your unfair demands for “climate reparations”, may we suggest you pay us royalties for the following: the internal combustion engine, Spinning Jenny, steam power, Tarmacadam, electrical telegraph, railways, automobiles, airplanes, radio, television, computers, pharmaceuticals and the world wide web. 

We’ll throw in Parliamentary government and democracy for free as a gesture of goodwill. Bank transfers welcome.

Very best wishes and we remain cordially yours, 

Britain

Of course, demanding compensation for everything the United Kingdom has contributed to the world would be absurd. Equally absurd is committing billions we simply don’t have to settle historic “loss and damage” claims.  On the list of “developing countries” with their hand out is China. The country which has emitted more carbon dioxide over the past eight years than the UK has since the start of the Industrial Revolution.

If the Conservatives are looking for new ways to guarantee electoral annihilation, asking skint voters to pay for "climate reparations" should work a treat.   

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/11/08/cop27-dont-owe-developing-countries-climate-reparations-owe/ 

 

In my opinion, the Tories are missing out on a huge political opportunity here. With the idiot Ed Miliband already committing Labour to this idea of reparations, this is the chance for them to open up clear water between the two parties, and come down clearly against this potty policy.

At the next election, voters would be given the choice of paying tens of billions to the Third World or spending it on more important things at home.

It’s time to grow a pair, Rishi.

46 Comments
  1. Skyman permalink
    November 9, 2022 9:30 pm

    I have already informed my MP of the loss of my vote. She is following the party line and will not listen to any reasoned arguments. She has been told in no uncertain terms that my vote is going to anyone who can bring sanity back to politics. I guess I won’t be voting for anyone!!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 10, 2022 12:55 pm

      That is probably the best solution – a mass boycott of the polls. Without doing the research, I would be surprised if there were any MPs with more than 50% of their electorate supporting them so if that were forced down below 25% then how can they justify their positions? I think the lying oaf Johnson is about 38% – I don’t know about Sushi.

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        November 10, 2022 2:00 pm

        I’m will go for the “None of the above” or something to do with CO2 not being a problem option. Not sure which yet, so I’m a floating voter currently

  2. David Calder permalink
    November 9, 2022 9:59 pm

    Fk the lot of them. I am done

  3. William George permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:00 pm

    Another superb piece by a well informed commentator. This government are a shambles but one dreads the thought of Starmer and Milgreen. Heaven help us.

    • Bertie permalink
      November 9, 2022 10:06 pm

      No hope. They’re all the same. Thank God I’m not long for this world. It’s most certainly not the one I was born into.

      • HotScot permalink
        November 9, 2022 10:30 pm

        The trick, dear chap, is to do as we did in our youth.

        Get on with life, ignore the papers, the BBC news, and now the internet.

        We, or at least I, hadn’t a care in the world until I began taking notice of politics and spent 50 years with a permanent grin on my face.

        I have spent the last 15 years worrying, and being pretty miserable, so on retirement I’m about to go off and buy the performance car I always wanted. Damn the consequences.

        I do care about my kids and grandkids but we sorted out the financial mess left by our parents and grandparents – well, we didn’t, we are just passing it on.

        But our kids are as resilient and resourceful as we were. And if they’re not, as Mark Twain put it (paraphrasing):

        ‘I have been dead for billions of years and not suffered the slightest inconvenience’.

      • bobn permalink
        November 10, 2022 1:44 am

        Agree our society is decending into slime. Thus I isolate myself as much as possible. Ignore all laws when they dont suit and live as independently from the insane new society as I can. Tax avoidance and evasion is a civic duty, and non-compliance with authority a necessity. Thus one can stay sane,.
        Today i drove at 70mph in a 60 area because I ‘identify 70 as 60’. Its ‘my truth’!
        Tomorrow i will park my diesel in an electric car parking space. I will display a notice saying ‘I’m a diesel but today Im identifying as electric’.
        Such is the world they have created so give it back to them with both barells. They treat us with contempt so we must treat them likewise.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        November 10, 2022 12:47 pm

        Nice one bobn, and the best thing is that tax avoidance is completely legal.

  4. Bernard Taylor permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:05 pm

    We need to be careful about ‘leading the world’. Our esteemed rulers want us to lead the world to ‘net zero’. Perhaps we should learn a little humility. We thought we were doing the world a favour by raising the standard of living of billions of people hugely. Apparently we were wrong and now they are demanding reparations. We should stop telling other people what to do in case we are wrong again.

    • HotScot permalink
      November 9, 2022 10:20 pm

      That, Bernard, is a fantastic observation.

  5. The Informed Consumer permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:17 pm

    The Conservatives are still clinging to the concept of popularity on trivial issues rather than tackling controversial issues like immigration, NetZero and Ukraine.

    Where is the cry for peace talks in Ukraine, as an example. Whatever side one takes on this issue (and I take none) there can be no justification for not demanding peace talks from day one.

    Will the British public fall, once again, for the WMD event of the 21st Century, this time from Russia.

    Prosecuting the Ukraine war, by proxy or otherwise, is as big a mistake as prosecuting the Iraq war and I’m shocked that there are no protestors out in the streets of British cities as there were against the Iraq war.

    The Nudge unit of our government has been hard at work.

    • HotScot permalink
      November 9, 2022 10:34 pm

      *Sigh*

      ‘Informed Consumer’ is, as ever, HotScot.

      No matter how I try WordPress continues to be a pain in the ass.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 10, 2022 7:59 am

      Yes resisting an aggressor willi g to kill civilians without ant restraint is a mistake. If we ask him nicely he will stop.

      Thats what history tells you, right?

      • Gerry, England permalink
        November 10, 2022 12:49 pm

        Depends if you know what you are talking about when it comes to the history of Ukraine…as we can see, most don’t.

      • HotScot permalink
        November 10, 2022 4:21 pm

        @Phoenix44

        War is nasty, neither side is innocent, and Ukraine has killed 14,000 of its own people in the last 8 years without Russia’s help.

    • Keith permalink
      November 10, 2022 12:10 pm

      Please stop referring to the Nudge Unit. We need to use the correct term, it is a Brainwashing Unit.

  6. W Flood permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:26 pm

    The problem is who on earth do we vote for at the next election? They are all insane, Tories, Labour, Libdem, SNP , Plaid, Green. I just want to go home.

    • Ian Wilson permalink
      November 10, 2022 8:24 am

      The day Rishi Sunak announced the fracking ban I joined the Reform Party. They probably won’t win a singe seat next election but no-one else has remotely sensible policies and perhaps if enough of us join them it may eventually make an impact.

  7. catweazle666 permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:57 pm

    The last time we had a Conservative party was 28/11/1990.
    Time to start looking at the various alternatives such as Reform and UKIP (again).
    I’m just waiting to see which way Nigel is going to jump…

    • bobn permalink
      November 10, 2022 1:48 am

      Nigel supports Reform. However he may not stand or take a leadership role. But he does support Tice.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 10, 2022 12:53 pm

      It would be nice if we had somebody who does detail to lead the opposition. That has never been Farage’s strong point and the failure of UKIP to have a plan for the one thing they stood for – exiting the UK – will continue to damage us for years to come. Especially as the leftie Remoaners are quick to blame things on Brexit when the real culprit is the bodged exit under the lying oaf.

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        November 10, 2022 2:17 pm

        My view of Farrage is that he was very disappointed when the Brexit vote went his way. He was happy getting his pay from Brussels, paid TV appearances and newspaper articles and at the same time being able to insult Johnny Foreigner. Once Brexit was done he’d no idea what to do about making it work so ran away and hid in America, very much like Bunter in that respect, very easy writing articles for the Telegraph from Brussels, most of which didn’t have a particularly close relationship with the truth.

        We still don’t know what to do over half a decade since the vote, and are running round in circles unable to do anything right.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11412163/Leave-voting-Tory-peer-CEO-says-Government-blocking-entry-needed-foreign-workers.html

      • catweazle666 permalink
        November 10, 2022 2:39 pm

        “at the same time being able to insult Johnny Foreigner”

        Of course! That must be why he married a German lady.

        The last thing Nigel Farage (at least show him the respect of spelling his name correctly) is a racist, it is not racist to be in favour of well-managed immigration.

        As to getting his pay from Brussels, he is still entitled to £73,000 PA, which IMO he thoroughly deserves, as he gave up a very lucrative career in the City to become a politician with the single intention of extracting the UK from the Eurofascist kleptocracy in Brussels.

        There is a reason that Nigel Farage is commonly regarded as the most successful European politician since Thatcher – even by his enemies such as Ken Clarke.

        See if you can guess what it is!

  8. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 9, 2022 10:57 pm

    “Between 1750 and 2020, the UK emitted 78 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, compared with China’s emissions of 80 billion tonnes since 2013.”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/environment/2022/11/07/china-pumps-pollution-eight-years-uk-since-industrial-revolution/

  9. ThinkingScientist permalink
    November 9, 2022 11:07 pm

    Paul says:

    “In my opinion, the Tories are missing out on a huge political opportunity here. With the idiot Ed Miliband already committing Labour to this idea of reparations, this is the chance for them to open up clear water between the two parties, and come down clearly against this potty policy.”

    Spot on. I have been pointing out something along those lines to my Conservative MP for over 2 years. They have been given a get out of jail free card by the rise in energy prices and Ukraine war.

    Too stupid to take the opportunity. They will lose, Labour will get in and make things even worse (yes, I think that’s possible).

    When the voter backlash comes eventually its going to be VERY bad for the current crop of politicians. And it will come.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 10, 2022 8:06 am

      It’s not that they are too stupid as such. They actually believe this stuff because to not believe is very costly in terms of social position, career progression etc. No Sceptic will get a ministerial position and sceptics will be targeted by the press, not invited to conferences, ostracised by the rich Green cliques. And where’s the benefit?

    • Orde Solomons permalink
      November 10, 2022 9:11 am

      My takd exactly!

  10. G stuart permalink
    November 9, 2022 11:10 pm

    The UN Assembly of Private Jets

    And Africans are prevented by FAO / UN / World Bank from acquiring tractors and fertilisers

    G Stuart

  11. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 9, 2022 11:25 pm

    At the beginning of the 20th century someone born in Pakistan could barely expect to make it out of their early 20s. Thanks to fossil fuels and our knowledge and aid that is now heading towards 70. Who exactly owes who?

  12. David Wojick permalink
    November 9, 2022 11:30 pm

    At this point “reparations” is a green misnomer. The issue for now is paying for future damages. It clearly follows from the doctrine of destructive AGW that those who created the CO2 increase are liable for the resulting damages. It is an open and shut case. My hope is that once confronted by this clear liability the guilty countries, etc., will rethink their blind acceptance of the AGW doctrine.

    The good side of the industrial revolution is irrelevant. If you help someone then hurt them you are still liable for the hurt.

    • David Wojick permalink
      November 9, 2022 11:50 pm

      I think this issue qualifies as Theatre of the Absurd. Enjoy it as such.

  13. November 10, 2022 5:00 am

    Rashi Sanook was installed as PM to do just this: by toeing the globalist line he knows he is setting the fake Conservatives up for annihilation at the next election, but it doesn’t matter, because the ‘opposition’ also toe the globalist line, even more so, and they will continue the destruction of Great Britain where the fake Conservatives left off – and they will have a ‘democratic mandate’ to do so courtesy of an idiotic electorate who think they are voting for ‘change’.

  14. Phoenix44 permalink
    November 10, 2022 8:25 am

    At present it’s undoubtedly true that there is no “climate damage” to pay for but plenty of “climate benefit” in the form of greening. The majority of warming is in the Arctic with very little in the Tropics. The IPCC says it cannot show that extremes have increased. Its a lie from a report written by those with bias to satisfy the demands of dyed-in-the-wool socialists. I doubt if more than 20% of people in the UK are willing to pay. Yet it will happen.

  15. europeanonion permalink
    November 10, 2022 8:47 am

    The answer to energy reliance is not developing our material resource but, obviously, having more wind turbines! From word go, had we developed our own fuel sources then Russia would never have had mastery if the globe and the Conservatives would not be using fuel shortage as a means of terrifying us and explaining their aberrance. We are now stumbling from one dependency to another, from Russia to wind. At least, in many respects, you can rely on Russia (to be absurd), but wind? Every plan needs a back-up, in our energy requirement, what is that to be? What is astounding and frightening is the chutzpah of the fringe. ‘Just stop oil’ and Saint Greta have only just got started. Acquiescing to their energy program is but a precursor to their greater commitment to cease industrial production.

    The delivery driver missed his pre-arranged delivery slot, he had needed to stop twice to recharge his electric van. When he did eventually turn-up with my manufactured goods (and no doubt had a vehicle full of such stuff) I was expected to bite the bullet. Cosmetically his company were pushing all the right buttons, an electric delivery system. But that meant I had to develop a sanguine view of his company’s commitment to service, the fundamentals of their business, my trust in them; this is the compliance that our now preferred power generation demands, you’re late but wow, nice van. But the merchandise they carry needed energy and production lines have an expectation of continuity. Fortunately, the goods are made somewhere else where the society is more ambitious than ours!

  16. fretslider permalink
    November 10, 2022 9:38 am

    Parliament is of one mind.

    Only a referendum will put the question and they know the answer already so there will never be one

    • November 10, 2022 12:40 pm

      Parliament is of one mind.

      Rather like the Borg.

  17. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 10, 2022 9:45 am

    Wishy washy Rishi rules it out, still talking rubbish about green ‘investment’.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/environment/2022/11/09/rishi-sunak-rules-climate-reparations-amid-ongoing-cop27-row/

  18. Liardet Guy permalink
    November 10, 2022 10:03 am

    The day Rishi announced the fracking ban I joined the LibDems. I’m due to attend a local meeting with the MP. I shall stand up and say I’m an apostate Tory, recently joined. I shall then ask the MP what percentage of global CO2 is emitted by the UK

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      November 10, 2022 10:26 am

      If the UK transitions to net zero by 2050, assuming atmospheric CO2 increases annually at 3ppm, it’ll be 503.6ppm instead of 504ppm!
      Except it won’t because China will do the manufacturing we cut, more inefficiently, so it will actually be higher than 504ppm instead.

    • Ian Wilson permalink
      November 10, 2022 11:23 am

      The problem with the LibDems is that their leader (Sir!!!) Ed Davey effectively killed fracking in the first place by setting tremor limits 3,000 times smaller than used in the US and recently rubbed it in by saying he was proud he had done so.
      Try the Reform Party, they at least have a sensible energy policy.

  19. Liardet Guy permalink
    November 10, 2022 10:04 am

    Was this magnificent piece in the print Telegraph?

  20. Harry Davidson permalink
    November 10, 2022 10:23 am

    The Tories have no chance of winning the next election.
    1. The Remainer wing of the PCP threw out the PM chosen by the members, and more importantly liked by the base.
    2. They put in the rejected candidate who is blithely following none of the policies the base likes.
    3. On the key issue of immigration, Sunak is (a) trusting Macron to help him. He won’t. (b) Following the Patel strategy with Braverman – allowing her to talk the talk but ensuring the Cabinet stops her doing anything effective.

    There is not a single person with electoral talent in Sunak’s front row. The extent of self deception in the PCP is just embarrassing.

  21. November 10, 2022 11:06 am

    Help —-I’m a sunk voter. Please, please; anything that floats will do. Meanwhile, I suppose, I will just have to hold my breath.

  22. Mikehig permalink
    November 10, 2022 7:13 pm

    The suggestion that we take responsibility for historic emissions misses a key point: who were the beneficiaries of the products that generated those emissions?
    For much of the industrial period we were the “workshop of the world”, much as China is today. In the same way as we now look at “imported emissions”, all those countries that took our exports should accept that the associated emissions belong on their own account.

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