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Millions face threat of flooding from glacial lakes–(Or Maybe Not!)

February 8, 2023

By Paul Homewood



h/t Cheshire Red



Up to 15 million people face risk of catastrophic flooding from glacial lakes which could burst their natural dams at any moment, a new study finds.

The study led by Newcastle University is the first global attempt to map potential hotspots for such floods.

As the climate warms, glaciers retreat and meltwater collects, forming lakes………………….

Dr Harrison added that the research was only a first step towards better understanding of the impact of climate change on what are known as glacial lake outburst floods (GLOFs).

That relationship is complex and made harder to prove by what scientists suspect to be a long time lag between cause and effect.

Research shows that an increase in floods which began in the early 20th Century and peaked in the 1970s could be a lagged response to climatic changes in the past.

While scientists expect that glacial floods will increase as a result of human-induced climate change, there has as yet been no such increase.

So millions are supposedlyat risk of these floods, but there has been no such increase yet? Sounds like more scaremongering to me!

But we also learn these floods were also increasing a century ago, a natural event long before man-made global warming. And as any glaciologist worth his salt would tell you, the real danger of glacial floods arises when glaciers are advancing:



HH Lamb: Climate, History & The Modern World

But as ever money talks. So called climate scientists are kept in a job producing these ludicrous studies, and the BBC can use it as more propaganda.

  1. John permalink
    February 8, 2023 7:30 pm

    Scientists expect that human induced global warming will cause Asian elephants to migrate northwards into Tibet however no such migration has occurred yet.

    • February 9, 2023 11:52 am

      They are waiting for the promised melting of all the Himalayan snow first….

  2. Broadlands permalink
    February 8, 2023 7:51 pm

    So.. are we supposed to believe that if we lower CO2 emissions to zero by 2050 these glacial lakes will stop flooding, even dry up?

    • Anders Valland permalink
      February 10, 2023 12:26 pm

      You have to read this carefully. If we lower CO2 emissions to zero, climate scientists will stop expecting glacial floods to increase.

  3. February 8, 2023 7:53 pm

    Charlatans, the lot of them.

  4. T Walker permalink
    February 8, 2023 8:01 pm

    Millions face constant, well funded BS everyday.

    • Cheshire Red permalink
      February 9, 2023 2:08 pm


  5. MrGrimNasty permalink
    February 8, 2023 8:40 pm

    In this report :-
    They are also suggesting climate change is increasing risk but admit it is nothing new.

    “During certain periods in the past, for example, the 1920s and 1930s, glacier dams and dam burst floods in the Indus system were a major and recurrent risk. There are indications that the return of such problems can be anticipated. ”

    “The geomorphologists of the International Karakoram Project surveyed the Hunza valley between Gilgit and Gulmit along the Karakoram Highway in 1980 and identified traces of 339 disastrous incidents,….”

    And population has exploded, so obviously millions more are at risk.

  6. Philip Bennett permalink
    February 8, 2023 9:14 pm

    I’m sure the learned gentleman is correct. This will quite possibly happen as will many other unwelcome outcomes of the warming trend but to suggest that by reducing CO2 we can avoid such disasters is a bit disingenuous.
    It should be obvious that the many developing countries (?China, India etc) are going to put the needs of their underprivileged peoples before CO2 reduction (even if doing so could conceivably temper global warming??) so it would be much more sensible the apply the trillions of pounds ($,Euros etc ..) to mitigating these inevitable disasters rather than wasting them attempting to stop the unstoppable!

    • Broadlands permalink
      February 9, 2023 1:16 am

      Reductions in CO2 emissions takes no CO2 out of the atmosphere. It leaves carbon in the ground in case we need it when the climate cools again. But it also makes transportation more costly in those efforts to install renewables. Not a good plan to “save the planet”.

  7. Gamecock permalink
    February 8, 2023 10:00 pm

    ‘Dr Harrison added that the research was only a first step towards better understanding of the impact of climate change on what are known as glacial lake outburst floods (GLOFs).’

    Send more money.

    ‘That relationship is complex and made harder to prove by what scientists suspect to be a long time lag between cause and effect.’

    Lots more money.

    • eastdevonoldie permalink
      February 9, 2023 1:46 pm

      US CC envoy John Kerry stated at the recent WEF ego-fest with his fellow extra-terrestial beings that …..”Only Way to Stop Global Warming is ‘Money, Mo ney, Money, Money…”
      It would appear he is doing very well for himself on the money front:

      • Gamecock permalink
        February 9, 2023 7:47 pm

        Kerry was never particularly successful at anything. He pissed off most everyone who knew him.

        All the money is Teresa’s. Which she got from Mr Heinz. So John and Teresa have only been successful at marriage.

        So they should rule the world . . . .

  8. Gamecock permalink
    February 8, 2023 10:10 pm

    ‘Millions face threat of flooding from glacial lakes’

    So how many are moving? It seems way more important to BBC than the millions who live there. 3rd party angst – the bane of Western Civilization.

    I could stop driving my car, or they could move. I’m not stopping. Even if I did, they would still face threat of flooding from glacial outbursts.

    Not my problem.

    “Millions face threat of tornadoes in the US.”

    M’kay. So what?

  9. M Fraser permalink
    February 9, 2023 7:05 am

    Next BBC headline ‘millions to die of old age’, the big problem is how to blame the climate!
    Another of the planets natural erosion and weathering processes, glacial dam burst, its the same with the threat of flooding, just driving around the UK and seeing all the new houses being built….they are nearly all on floodable land, seeing as our forebears had already picked the best sites! The vale of York is a classic example, millions at risk of flooding, of Course they are, its gravity not climate. Someone one needs to invent a ground source flood pump and no doubt the UK dimwit Govt will buy into it! Its either climate or brexit as the easy excuse for failure, example ‘the Somerset levels’, why did they flood…. an EU directive to stop dredging, thats why, again dimwit Govt.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      February 9, 2023 9:01 am

      Old age/climate – you should know by now, there is nothing climate can’t do.

      “From climate warming to accelerated cellular ageing: an experimental study in wild birds.”

      • frankobaysio permalink
        February 9, 2023 10:10 am

        The recent collapse of the embankment on the Southern railway line was conveniently stated to be maybe due to climate change, and extreme wet weather, rather than the obvious failure of proper inspection and maintenance.

      • February 9, 2023 12:58 pm

        I think railway embankments and cuttings are not draining properly – maybe due to allowing trees to grow which we are told to plant to hold back water from running into rivers from fields. We know there is no evidence to support extreme rainfall and somehow these earthworks have survived for over 100 years but with the end of steam there has been big reduction in keeping them clear – and a big increase in leaves on the line.

  10. eromgiw permalink
    February 9, 2023 9:19 am

    BBC keeping the Fear Index turned up to 11.

  11. Phoenix44 permalink
    February 9, 2023 9:48 am

    Perhaps bad things might happen if we continue to use fossil fuels. But good things will happen too – people will et wealthier, live longer and live healthier.

    Everything – everything – is a trade-off. That’s what Economics is, the study of trade-offs. Giving us all clean water requires chlorine which produces some bad things. But the benefits of clean water far outweigh those costs. Endlessly reporting just the costs of any decision is lying.

  12. February 9, 2023 11:59 am

    A recent paper in Nature has shown how since the end of the war, groundbreaking human innovation is dying out. Not unconnected with the increase in governments funding research and therefore setting out the criteria for funding. It also points to larger numbers of people working on research projects that is reducing the innovation. Back in the day, lone mavericks pushed forward the boundaries often funded by rich people keen to see the benefits to mankind. Now rich people spend their money trying to reduce the population.

  13. Jack Broughton permalink
    February 9, 2023 12:24 pm

    These publications and thousands like them serve to remind us how massive, powerful and all-pervasive the AGW movement has become. Apart from a few web-sites, The Global Policy Foundation and GB News the alternative views are censored out of existence. I was hoping that a few MPs might join with Stephen Baker and start to query the fracking ban and Net-zero …. a fond hope!

  14. February 9, 2023 12:34 pm

    If you want to see glacial lake flooding, I direct you to the Glacial Lake Missoula floods during the Pleistocene. The breaking of the ice dam sent a force of water which actually carved out the Washington state scab lands.

    The first was such a success, that the scenario was repeated several times.
    Here is a link to a short version, but there are a lot of YouTube programs about the floods.

  15. eastdevonoldie permalink
    February 9, 2023 1:39 pm

    Now, where have I heard this before……..

    Does this sound familiar?
    “The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer, and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard‐of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.” —
    from an Associated Press report published in The Washington Post on Nov. 2, 1922.
    The Global Warming Apocalypses That Didn’t Happen

  16. February 16, 2023 2:46 pm

    “could burst their natural dams at *any* moment”
    .. Am I wrong to think that bursting would NOT happen in Winter freezing temperatures
    and the rare event would almost always happen in the Spring Melt, if it did happen ?

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