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UK Set For Another Day Of Misleading BBC Propaganda

April 21, 2017

By Paul Homewood

 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39668889

 

I cannot understand why the BBC should think this is news. We regularly have many days when wind power is effectively zero.

 

But before anybody runs away with the wrong idea, which is clearly the BBC’s intention, we need to be aware that the conventional technologies of gas and nuclear have been reliably supplying up to 25GW of demand, a good deal more than two thirds.

The BBC’s favoured wind power has meanwhile zigzagged between 2GW and 4GW. But naturally they won’t tell you this!

 

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https://www.bmreports.com/bmrs/?q=eds/main

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23 Comments leave one →
  1. Joe Public permalink
    April 21, 2017 7:53 pm

    With no coal generation today, UK’s 12GW of solar should have made a killing. 😉

    Instead, it generated <2% of demand.

    Proving once again, the sun doesn't always shine on the righteous.

  2. MrGrimNasty permalink
    April 21, 2017 8:25 pm

    It’s just a political stunt in a low demand situation, if they wanted to make a political statement about the futility of wind/solar – they could have cut them off too – there was sufficient capacity elsewhere.

    It’s actually nuclear and gas doing most of the work.

    We had a power cut today – I wonder if them messing around for this stunt caused an issue?

  3. April 21, 2017 8:44 pm

    I used to think that the BBC’s propaganda couldn’t get any worse, but now I know better. This week has been full of fake news about “climate change”, sea level rise due to “climate change”, how renewable energy can save the planet and so on and so forth.

    “Is that true, or did you hear it on the BBC?”

  4. HotScot permalink
    April 21, 2017 8:49 pm

    I’ll make the point here I have made many times on WUWT.

    Responding to political propaganda with scientific fact is futile. Any major successes in the sceptics argument of climate change have recently been gained more by luck, with Trumps election, than by good judgement.

    If he’s kicked out next week, we are back to square one.

    Someone, somewhere, needs to take the sceptical view to a political level, because that’s the battleground. The science is inconsequential, adequately proven by the alarmists astonishing distortion of facts for political gain.

    • April 21, 2017 9:27 pm

      Everytime I’m at a public event I hear someone at the same table speak up and say how ridiculous the BBC is.
      Many of the public are way ahead of the curve
      ..Whilst BBC/MetroBubble arrogantly think they are the ones ahead

    • April 21, 2017 10:53 pm

      HotScot Dead right Glad you understand it. I may also add that science itself is in such a perilous state that even sceptic’s are prone to being fooled by some of it if it suits their (our) cause. I was long ago convinced that all out ridicule is the only way forward. Steve Milloy of Junk Science has had great success via the courts and exposed actual Law breaking by the EPA, but real success against the stupidity of our political class is rare. We need to change politics and make them personally accountable for spending our money. That is the only way to fight back.

    • dennisambler permalink
      April 22, 2017 8:51 am

      You are absolutely right, the headline is the objective, the facts are irrelevant.

  5. Bradley Curtis permalink
    April 21, 2017 8:56 pm

    Paul, do you have any way to pass this information along to Pres. Trump?

    • April 22, 2017 8:42 am

      Unfortunately not

      • dennisambler permalink
        April 22, 2017 8:59 am

        A possible route is via Marc Morano, at Climate Depot, who is well connected with Heartland etc. Morano served as the director of communications for Senator Jim Inhofe. He was also communications director for the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee under the George W. Bush administration.

        morano@climatedepot.com,

        http://www.climatedepot.com

  6. April 21, 2017 9:30 pm

    You could all turn your electric cookers/fires on just to annoy the BBC

  7. April 21, 2017 9:39 pm

    NG say it will be 24 hours at 22:50
    but someone pointed out it won’t be a full day today cos a coal power station is scheduled at around midnight

      • April 21, 2017 9:42 pm

        The guy said
        “West Burton Unit 1 in the balancing mechanism called by Grid at £115/MWh to cover sunset ^PH”
        Does that mean it happened ?

      • HotScot permalink
        April 21, 2017 10:49 pm

        AaaaaaRgggggHhhhhHHHHH…….Twitter!!!!!

        Pseudo intellectual comments, restricted to a few characters, condensing articles, statements and entire policies into mobile phone consumable soundbites, for the intellectually challenged masses who can’t be bothered to read an entire political manifesto of a few pages and actually understand what is being proposed.

        We had the pleasure of the company of an 11 year old young man tonight who demonstrated more intellectual capacity than the entire Twitter obsessed population of inner London.

        He is borderline deprived, from a broken home, living with a stepfather and stepbrother, at a dodgy comprehensive school, but discussed Islam, Christianity and ideology with me, amongst other things.

        Thank f^ck he hasn’t discovered Twitter.

      • April 22, 2017 8:26 am

        Hmm an Attempt to dismiss, instead of looking at all available info
        There came a later tweets
        “Spoil sports, Ratcliffe Unit 1 declares its intention to move to 1MW at 23:55 and to be at 4MW at midnight, a few 100kWh of generation ^PH ”
        ..of course that amount is very close to zero

        At 3:11pm Twitter Time (California) so 23:11pm
        “National Grid can confirm that for the past 24 hours, it has supplied GB’s electricity demand without the need for #coal generation.”
        “Today’s average generation mix so far has been gas 50.3%, nuclear 21.2%, wind 12.2%, imports 8.3%, biomass 6.7%, solar 3.6%”

        “The 8% of imports. How was that produced. Coal or nuclear.”

        from mygridgb “Coal went offline at 10pm on 20th April and has yet to come back on.
        Overall in 2016, coal was off for 210 hours. In 2017, it is already been off for over 70 hours.
        ..
        Today represents the one of the lowest carbon intensities possible for British electricity”
        (no it doesn’t cos you are in DENIAL about Drax ..actually spouting more CO2 than coal would)

        “Would some coal have been burned to keep them ready on stand by?”

      • April 22, 2017 8:30 am

        oops Tadaa’s Tweet box isn’t supposed to be there
        He made the comment about 8% imports

  8. April 21, 2017 11:08 pm

    Generation Z I think they call them, those bone after the year 2000 are the last hope for our civilisation. The millennials are a lost cause, except 2 of my 4 can be counted on to do the right thing, but one has been so brainwashed (and she is now a consultant for the NHS so not unintelligent) that you can’t have a conversation about any thing to do with climate or science without her pulling some sort of superiority or put-down stunt. Not for her any discussion of fact. This is what training in the NHS does to you. I have met many a Medical Doctor during my life and on the whole have not been very impressed.

    Interestingly Generation Z have grown up with the Left Dominating politics and everything else, and they see its not working and are rallying against it, with more conservative libertarian views. They also understand the its about the very few haves against all the rest of us. This is where we will win the argument.

  9. Joe Public permalink
    April 21, 2017 11:58 pm

    Even the once-dependable FT is disingenuous.

    Grid officials said low demand for electricity in the week after the Easter holiday and a large amount of wind and nuclear power had helped to create the zero-coal day.

    By Friday afternoon, gas power plants were supplying 47 per cent of the country’s electricity while nuclear plants and wind farms each provided 18 per cent.

    Solar panels supplied about 10 per cent and 6 per cent came from biomass such as the wood pellets used in half the huge Drax power plant in North Yorkshire that was once the country’s largest coal plant.

    [My italicisation]

    The italicised phrase implies (to the gullible) that solar generated 10% of the entire (24-hour) day’s power. My screencap in comment #1 shows solar only briefly supplied 10%, in the morning.

    https://www.ft.com/content/8f65f54a-26a7-11e7-8691-d5f7e0cd0a16

  10. April 22, 2017 8:28 am

    Nat Grid confirmed 24 hours but can you see it was only 2 days since coal ran FOR MORE than 24 hours itself

  11. April 22, 2017 8:58 am

    How long would they manage without coal power if electric cars were selling like hot cakes?

  12. Dave Ward permalink
    April 22, 2017 11:05 am

    “It said the previous longest continuous period without coal-generation was 19 hours, achieved last May”

    Sorry to be pedantic, but even that is not true. According to BM Reports, Coal output was at zero between 22:40 on the 19th and 17:55 on the 20th, which is 19 hours and 15 minutes… If they can’t even do some simple fact checking of their own data, why should we pay any attention to banner headline claims?

  13. Joe Public permalink
    April 22, 2017 2:18 pm

    Bloody publicity stunt:

    As I type this we’re IMPORTING 2GW from France & 1GW from Holland!!

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