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Turtles Must Go North To Survive

December 22, 2022

By Paul Homewood

h/t Ian Magness



Pinky and Perky to emigrate to North Pole:




Joe Pinkstone is one of the new generation of journalists, who do not bother checking the facts and naively believe every silly scare story thrown their way. A few years ago, for instance, he told us that lager prices would double because severe droughts caused by climate change were going to decimate barley fields.

If he had bothered to actually read this new report, he would have found out that the authors were not saying turtles would be forced north, rather that their range would expand northwards. Sure, there may be some regional changes, but these would be caused by long term changes in precipitation. And as the authors admit, projections of precipitation trends are notoriously untrustworthy.

Bear in mind that the study looks at non-marine turtles, I doubt whether any of us have seen hordes of turtles heading up the M1, given that we are already 1C warmer than the Little Ice Age.

  1. Broadlands permalink
    December 22, 2022 6:52 pm

    By contrast too cold and dry for turtles. But if warmer and wetter they must be able to adapt. Sounds fair.

  2. December 22, 2022 6:59 pm

    Whilst not common turtles are regularly found along our coast already

  3. December 22, 2022 7:00 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  4. It doesn't add up... permalink
    December 22, 2022 7:00 pm

    It’s turtles all the way down…

  5. December 22, 2022 7:11 pm

    I doubt whether any of us have seen hordes of turtles heading up the M1

    Surely that’s because in the ‘race against time’ it’s quicker for turtles to swim 😎

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      December 22, 2022 7:49 pm

      They would need to wait for one of those once-in-century floods that are going to turn up every other week.

  6. John Hultquist permalink
    December 22, 2022 7:31 pm

    I looked out the window and saw a ripple in the foot deep snow.
    I bundled up [ -3°F out there ] and went and dug through the snow.
    A turtle family was heading North. I brought all 97 of them inside and convinced them to stay until April 1st.

  7. December 22, 2022 7:43 pm

    Aha! Not marine – turtles!!
    Mock Turtles perhaps?

    Definitely X-Box prognostications at their finest!

    Turtles all the way down!

  8. December 22, 2022 8:03 pm

    Saved on my PC is a pic from a newspaper w/pic of Armadillo, from 1973. Caption: Warmth-loving armadillo which expanded its range northward into the American west in the first half of this century is now retreating southward again. Shift is seen as a sign of a cooling climatic trend.

    Also another, w/pic, from 2018. Caption: Scientists monitoring the armadillo’s progress say the migration is a consequence of rising global temperatures.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      December 22, 2022 8:23 pm

      I have the headlines saved in my file ‘Extinction is coming’. The bit about them going south is dated 1974 and the bit about them going north was in 2015. These ‘scare tactics’ are repeated by the gullible who never bother with the facts.
      “that migration, however, is clearly triggered by a changing climate. For the nine-banded armadillo, it looks like it’s Canada or bust!”

      Wisely the Armadillos have decided not to go to Canada after all, perhaps they recalled “2012 Enjoy snow now, by 2020 it will be gone”
      Environmental Researchers say the end of Australia’s ski culture is in
      sight, despite one of the best snow seasons in a decade
      The Australian Sept 5, 2012
      Curiously the snow season in the Australian Alps started a bit early in 2022 and had record amounts of snow, indeed it was still snowing a week ago.

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    December 22, 2022 8:42 pm

    I think the turtles at BEIS have been stung into action by reports here and elsewhere on the failure of companies to commence their CFDs…

    Click to access ar5-cfd-contract-changes-december-2022-consultation.pdf

    The consultation notes:

    The main potential cost associated with the contract change is the potential impact on strike prices. In the medium-term, generators bidding into AR5 and beyond may price in potential financial gains from operating under merchant (market) terms before their CfD contract starts, while wholesale prices are high. This involves a generator selling their electricity at current high market prices while avoiding the obligation to pay back into the CfD scheme. Closing off this opportunity could lead to higher strike prices as generators attempt to offset this ‘lost’ revenue, with these higher costs passed onto consumers, which could diminish or outweigh the benefits to consumers of preventing foregone payments.

    Well done, Sherlock!

    I am sure that Andrew Mountford will be on their case. Meantime, I wonder if they have noticed the shortcomings of the Baseload Market Reference Price yet (discussed here recently)? It offers important clues to responses to inadequate revenues: companies shut operations.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      December 23, 2022 10:45 am

      So stopping them bidding artificially low to get the contract, knowthe can either opt for market or withhold required electricity unless they get a higher price is going to be stopped? And that will lead to higher bids?

      Well I never. The trouble is the civil service think they are dealing with evil people rather than extremely commercially smart people who will see arbitrage and profit opportunities that government just does not.

  10. 1saveenergy permalink
    December 22, 2022 8:53 pm

    Great, now we can have fresh turtle soup without the air miles

  11. Ben Vorlich permalink
    December 22, 2022 11:19 pm

    Who’d have EU would screw up on regulations? Or that burning wood was worse than usi g fossil fuel?

  12. December 23, 2022 7:04 am

    Classic lying by omission which is called touted as science by the shamans of the Klymutt industrial complex

    • Tim Gettins permalink
      December 26, 2022 4:42 pm

      I had a vision of Amy Turtle tearfully having to leave the Crossroads Motel because of the heat – and then forgetting her next line…. sorry all… but just as believable…

  13. richard walker permalink
    December 23, 2022 8:23 am

    Does Pinkstone actually have a science degree??

  14. Harry Passfield permalink
    December 23, 2022 9:50 am

    Has the makings of a Christmas cracker joke: ‘Wind is free!’

  15. Harry Passfield permalink
    December 23, 2022 9:51 am

    Was meant as a reply to IDAU…

  16. Phoenix44 permalink
    December 23, 2022 10:41 am

    It’s just laughable. The only thing that’s rising is a global average. But since that’s (i) largely in the Arctic, (ii) endlessly localised rather then general, (iii) largely higher minimums and (iv) a long term average compared with a long term average, the vast majority of living creatures will be totally oblivious. We may see some changes at the margins such as slightly higher tree lines but any other changes will be largely undetectable. I don’t know what turtles eat but I’m 100% certain they won’t migrate (successfully) to anywhere that doesn’t live.

  17. Gamecock permalink
    December 26, 2022 1:40 pm

    ‘Turtles Must Go North To Survive’

    Will they get there before the hare?

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