Neil Oliver: Weather maps are among the most blatant forms of fearmongering deployed so far.
July 23, 2023
By Paul Homewood
h/t stewgreen
An excellent video by Neil Oliver on the heatwave hysteria – it starts about 4 mins in:
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
I blame colour television! The old black and white pictures never worried me,
even when the presenter said, “These closely packed pressure contours mean that ships at sea will have a bad time!”
Global Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) for the calendar year 2023 to date is interesting.
To date 209
“Expected*” to date 283
“Expected*” to Dec 31 780
Source Ryan Maue.
A dog that refuses to bark. “Consistent with” zero global warming. Quel chien mechant!
* From Climatology averages.
Nostalgia is nice, but we live in a world where Twitter makes headline news globally in minutes. People who own these companies & infrastructure know this – and they make full use of it. We need to fight the battle in the space the battle is in. Black & white tellies and three channels are gone and they aren’t coming back.
We ‘non-warmists’ have been fully aware of that for YEARS. Where’ve you been, oliver?
Does it matter? He has a platform and many more people ( and critically YOUNG people) are tuning in. That’s got to be good surely? Or is it more important to nurse our egos?
And on which TV News outlet has your show been broadcast – did I miss something?
This morning Richard Tice is pushing back strongly on his TalkTV show
Lots of graphs and maps eg one from the BBC on Wednesday showing the south of the UK in hot orange
when it seemed to have been actually colder
Link to live feed .. wind it back to 10:07am on the on screen clock
to when The Sermon about Climate Fear starts
I think Tice is spinning too far the other way as I still believe some new peak moment temperatures were broken.. And Tice wrong gives temperature errors in percentages as if the scale begins at zero.
oops link to video https://youtu.be/Gmk98uNr-Mw
Now in the interests of balance Donnachadh the London climate PR guy is on
Donnachadh “There is a massive misinformation campaign going on across the planet
but it’s not coming from the BBC and the Met Office it’s coming from OIL COMPANIES”
.. That’s a huge Conspiracy Theory he’s just stated .. I didn’t hear him give any evidence of any current campaign by Big Oil
Indeed Big Oil has benefitted from crazy green policies which have massively pushed up oil/gas prices.
Now Ross Clark is on Climate activists and ULEZ
I think your approach is sound – and I’m not the greatest fan of Tice – I don’t trust him frankly.
Your point on the oil companies is correct. Years ago I heard how the oil industry will make more money from the last trillion barrels than it did from all the previous trillions put together. They are rumoured to be financing ‘Just Stop Oil’ too!? It’s about cronyism cartels and getting the global population supplicant on consuming their products in a manner that makes them the most money. It’s a really complicated soup – and my strong feeling is we are still going to be in for some further big and nasty surprises yet. We must keep our heads and support one another and anyone who promotes real science and real democracy.
Tice was very inconveniently “wrong” or perhaps too mindful of OFCOM in his assessment of all matters SARS COV2/CV19/mRNA – effectively saying unless I am mistaken “its your choice ” – extremely unhelpful imho.
Oliver has a refined, reserved anger in his presentations but you can listen readily to his delivery. We’re familiar with the content of his message but how do you get that over to the young to stop them having sleepless nights? There is only one main narrative out there but perhaps Oliver’s platform on GB news will provide another. He certainly won’t be appearing on the BBC again even though he brought history to life in his programmes.
He mentions 3, or was it 4, topics in this video. I’d love him to take each topic and really give them an individual in depth examination. It would be very compelling.
His views on the Ukraine are mainly real nutjob stuff. Does he seriously believe that western involvement is all about western armaments suppliers profits? That said corporations were in some mysterious unexplained waywere able to persuade western governments to intervene and pay them £billions of their taxpayers money to supply weapons? That really is barmpot territory
In all honesty – if you saw how much money Halliburton made out of both the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts David G-J, you would maybe think differently? Zelensky is a puppet – aided by governments that have gone absolutely rogue in their corrupt ways. Ukraine war is a last step in a cornucopia of corruption started when the entire country’s legal and statute system was changed by the West (spearheaded by a representative of the corrupt NGO’s and who has family with a VERY dodgy past).
The US military complex does bear some blame for the situation in Ukraine by treating Russia as an enemy after the collapse of the Soviet Union to keep the money flowing from the US taxpayers. They will certainly be raking it in over the next few years as the US et al rush to restock munitions and purchase new AFVs.
Before this conflict I saw an article that said the Ukraine government was one of the most corrupt in the World. I doubt if that changed much.
Wasn’t Biden’s brother involved in a corrupt financial scam over there?
“…..were able to persuade western governments to intervene and pay them £billions of their taxpayers money to supply weapons? That really is barmpot territory”. That tactic was trialled horrendously with SARS COV2 – is that barmpot territory too?
DGJ , over 30 years ago John Le Carre, [ who knew what he was talking about ], wrote a book called “The Russia House ” .
It was about how a Russian scientist reveals that the Russian Nuclear attack capabilities were nowhere near what was believed .
But the Americans refuse to take notice as it would lead to a huge reduction in military spending .
So not a ” NUT JOB “view , but based on understanding how parts of the world work .
If we’re going to get into full conspiracy-theory mode, I was around when peaceniks in the USA were saying that Bell (of helicopter fame) was going bust until LBJ managed to get rid of JFK and persue the Vietnam war with a vengeance – to the benefit of Bell and a few other companies.
But that and other theories fall into the ‘I heard….’ file.
As I demand that scientists show honest work in their CC theories, so I would like to think that sceptics apply the same to their ‘theories’. Otherwise, we lose credibility.
I’m still struggling to see how western armaments manufacturers persuaded Putin that invading Ukraine would be to the benefit of Russia.
In the 1930s Nazi Germany kept the people happy by funding development by invading various places to increase the wealth of the country, and the individual members of the government. 1936 Rhineland, 1938 Austria, Sudetenland in 1938, Poland 1939.
Russia has had recent conflicts with ex-Republics and internally Cechen war, Georgia, has puppets in Belarus, South Ossetia, Serbia and Syria.
Ukraine is potentially a wealthy nation, or province of Russia. Following a well established route of all empires from the Assyrian, through Rome, Umayyad Caliphate, to British and French Fight a war with a neighbour then incorporate territory into the ever expanding empire, bringing wealth to the home government. Has Putin like Hitler in 1939 misjudged where to call a halt?
No doubt Chinese and others will benefit from the poor performance of Russian equipment in the conflict
“Does he seriously believe that western involvement is all about western armaments suppliers profits?”
Don’t you?
Why do you think “the Swamp” went to such lengths to rig the election against the first POTUS not to start a war for half a century and responsible for getting Israel and several Islamic nations around the conference table for the first time since 1948 – a feat that should have been worth a slew of Nobel Peace Prizes?
Not to mention getting the little fat NK nutter to stop shooting rockets over Japan, of course.
But hey, in your book “Orange Man Bad”, right?
yes, i gave up before getting to the weather section.
Take your kids out of school. Seriously, I know a couple who have just taken their youngest out when the nice ‘balanced’ junior school he was in became a local secondary school STEEPED in woke and cancel culture. There are groups which support parents who have chosen to do this.
Take your kids out of school. Seriously, I know a couple who have just taken their youngest out when the nice ‘balanced’ junior school he was in became a local secondary school STEEPED in woke and cancel culture. There are groups which support parents who have chosen to do this.
Worth noting then that in proposed legislation the government are trying to make it nigh on impossible to home school. There is still time to comment. As with most of what the government does, it has good intentions but lacks the ability to actually do it properly. The legislation is in response to all the problems following on from their ill-advised and ineffective covid lockdowns where some pupils have not returned to school.
“As with most of what the government does, it has good intentions…”
Really… Could have fooled me!
“…how do you get that over to the young…?”
You can’t! As Hayek wrote perceptively, seventy years ago, “The youth of today refuse to be consoled.” We were that youth. We were told to worry about the iniquity of Western Civilization and the nuclear war that was being prepared to punish us for not overthrowing it, and we* did worry and we*stuck to violent socialist dogma in the face of truth and we* did try to overthrow, or at least undermine, Western Civilization.. It took a long time for our generation and the next – our children -to get past that idiocy and many are still in love with the intoxicating feeling of it all.
Present youth – our grandchildren – is told to worry about the iniquity of Western Civilization and the climate war that Nature is preparing to punish them for not overthrowing it. And they* do worry…
Plus ca change!
There is an interesting thing about our Indo-European ideology which, after thousands of years, is still half of our psychology (the other half is borrowed Semitic culture). Our ancestors gave us the notion that conflict between the generations is natural and renews the tribe! No other culture in the world thinks like that. I am not talking about individual families. Of course, they run the gamut from being based on unconditional love to being torn apart by pathological hatred. I am talking about the way in which adolescence is handled
by society. In sensible cultures it is very quick. The child is pronounced as effectively dead and buried, and in his stead is an adult who pretends to have no memory of being a child. If his father tries to tell him what to do he will answer “Sorry. Do I know you?” In our culture, adolescence is interminable. It starts too soon and ends too late.
In the past, to enable the necessary break from parental discipline, it is rather clear that among the early Aryans the young men joined a sort of club, of roving outsiders***. Our children still have the instinct; they “give in to peer pressure” (or, if female, fall in love with bad boys,’) and generally go off the rails, to the bewilderment of caring parents. The rovers of old would have returned to their origins or sometimes wandered away and settled elsewhere****. Always, they would have presented as rough and unpleasant, but plenty tough and determined.
* Not everyone, of course. The teaching profession was full of rather harsh right-wingers then, who pooh-poohed it.
** Almost all of them, this time around. Teachers are either hard-left or keep silent about not being hard-left.
***Happens among chimps. Adolescent males suddenly find themselves no longer loved by anyone, not even their mothers, and have to find a way in from the margins, either of their birth group or a neighbouring group. Sadly, about a third of young males simply fade away and die at this time.
****Modern genetics shows that intruding groups into Europe who mated with the local population were entirely male.
Good post.
Things don’t seem to have changed much since Saint John the Divine wrote his Book of Revelations, do they?
“Good post.”
Thank you. I think most people do not consider how much a completely forgotten past may live in them* and direct their emotions.
Let the bells peal forth from temple towers – Let Rachel mourn.
Let women weep and cast their veils to heaven –
“For mercy gives to charm the sense of woe
Ideal peace which truth can ne’er bestow.”
“peace which truth can ne’er bestow.”
Telling people the truth and expecting them to be happy with it
will get you precisely nowhere.
Incidentally, spot the blatant paganisms from the earliest Semitic culture in these four lines of Victorian poetry masquerading as a translation from Omar Khayyam . Hint, there are ten!
* Do not ask me the mechanism of this. I do not know.
Hmm, he says some good things about Covid and Xlimate but he now seems to be drawn towards every nutjob conspiracy theory on the planet
When you are fighting a war of propaganda – if what he says takes us towards the ‘magic’ 18% of society no longer prepared to take the crap (and create a tipping point) globalists have been architecting since before the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, you need the likes of Oliver. I don’t agree 100% with everything he says – but a lot of what he does is sound.
“…’magic’ 18%…”
The trouble is that 18% is not likely to be enough, as they will be the nice, quiet, sensible people in society. “Poujardist” movements never quite get to the point of taking power.
You could say that the people of Britain had their one and only chance to “break the mould” immediately after the European Parliamentary Election in 2019, when the Brexit party got nearly 40% in England outside London. But that turned out to be essentially just another pointless “protest vote.”
Questions about hot Orange on UK weather maps
#1 https://twitter.com/snigrintrigrin/status/1681421988617650176
#2 https://twitter.com/PJ_Beatles_Fan/status/1681210403475292163
#3 https://twitter.com/JustUseOil/status/1681030567154921473
I do accept that orange now kicks in at 20C but should it ?
, and why orange when one guy says it’s 11 in his area ?
Saturday’s anomaly map appears to show most of Europe is BELOW normal average temps
.. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1qybJXXwAIkXvP?format=png&name=small
Orange = JSO? (Subliminal?)
Nah weather folks probably used random colour tricks in the past
Here’s Michael Fish in 1995 pushing heatwave
and using orange for 15C overnight
.. https://twitter.com/No2BS/status/1683063786557546497
Shades of Vance Packard* and the “Hidden Persuaders.”
But it kind of looks like different hues of yellow to me!
The subliminal message which I really notice and despise
in that 1975 map is the fact that precise lines are drawn between
areas of different temperature. This is SO telling us that the Met are omniscient, is it not? And that the world can be measured as if it were a piece of cloth.
On the other hand, I am happy that it was apparently jolly hot 48 years ago almost to the day! Where is the progression?
* Who remembers him? I devoured his books back in the day.
Brilliant anomaly map with the average being 0.15 C below normal!
Here are my favourite weather presenter hyperbole moments.
1. Hot weather is ‘hotter than it should be at this time of year’, while cold weather is simply ‘below average’.
2. A wet day often results in ‘a month’s worth of rain’ without any further elaboration of which month or where.
3. Wind speeds have been changed from average to ‘highest’.
4. A one off – Chris Faulkes predicted, during one of the spring gales, waves ‘as big as two double decker buses’. He didn’t tell us where these would be found; middle of the Channel? In the Solent?
5. (Usually a local radio one) 30 degrees C is ‘twice as warm’ as 15 degrees C.
Rather telling comparison. Looking closely at the anomalies on the right, I defy people to be able define the difference between zero and plus 13. Some of the other really high colours look the same as lower ones.
Another example:
https://twitter.com/joanybaby77/status/1682721307421552640
“False-colour maps” – one more idea which seemed good at the time.
Except parts of Spain did reach 45C, Sardinia/Corsica 47.7C, loads of other places mid 40s. Maybe not all on the same day, because the peak heat was moving around. But the general temperature predictions were achieved within very small margins. Two sides are playing games with the truth here.
Mr GM you seem hell bent on claiming the figures quoted are accurate – they were not. Please see my recent post detailing official temperatures on Sardinia as an example on the “Record Breaking Heatwave In Europe?” thread.
Television weather ‘forecasts’ are the original, old-school Fake News, designed to reel in an audience, not inform it. “Deadly HEAT sweeps across the area; your family might die–film at eleven.” The LSM is all-in on fake news. They are given a narrative and dutifully read the script handed them, lest the be instantly replaced by the producers’ newest busty blond distraction.
What signifies just how bad the BBC is that if some third rate pop singer or soap opera actor dies it is all over the news like a smallpox rash, yet if so one of real artistic significance does it is not mentioned anywhere (not even on R3) :- uncultured morons all!!!!!
Has Neil been looking at Tony Heller’s blog?
https://realclimatescience.com/2023/07/europe-about-to-turn-into-an-uninhabitable-desert-wasteland/
Carl Sagan on skepticism: 1st . . We’re arranged a society based on technology and science in which nobody understands anything about science and technology. And this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces. I mean, who is running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don’t know anything about it? The second reason I’m worried about this is that science is more than a body of knowledge. It’s a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe with a fine understanding of human fallibility. If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then we’re up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious [nut] who comes ambling along. It’s a thing that Jefferson lay great stress on. It wasn’t enough, he said, to enshrine some rights in a Constitution or a Bill of Rights; the people had to be educated and they had to practice their skepticism and their education. Otherwise, we don’t run the government. The government runs us.
Steve Loftus has done some research, someone should check it
Context he presents 2 maps
The bottom one is the BBC original He’s marked it “Reported”
but he means “predictionss the BBC reported”
The top map is one made by him superimposing the actual observed temperatures over the BBC map