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Hydrogen, no matter the colour, cannot stop the looming renewable energy train crash

July 25, 2023
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By Paul Homewood

h/t Paul Kolk

 

What a delight to read an article written by an actual energy expert, instead of some dopey environmental reporter!

 

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The Royal Society of Chemistry describes hydrogen as “a colourless, odourless gas”. It’s up there at the top if the Periodic Table: Group 1, Period 1. It is the most abundant gas in the universe, but on Earth it is mostly found bound with oxygen in the form of water – very little hydrogen gas is present in the atmosphere as it quickly escapes the Earth’s gravity and floats away into outer space.

Yet this ephemeral gas is touted as the solution to the great looming problem of renewable power – carbon free energy storage at scale. The obvious issues with relying on intermittent wind and solar energy can be solved by using excess renewable energy on sunny, windy days to produce hydrogen gas. This can then be stored for use on less windy days, whether that be by direct combustion to generate heat, or to generate electricity, or in other industrial uses.

The different ways in which this invisible element can be produced have been assigned different colours: green, blue, brown, yellow, turquoise and pink hydrogen. Also, white hydrogen. Helpfully, there is no universal naming convention so hydrogen colour definitions may change over time, or between countries.

Green hydrogen is the “best” hydrogen, made by using that surplus renewable energy to electrolyse water, splitting it into its components of hydrogen and oxygen, emitting zero carbon dioxide. Some say yellow hydrogen if solar power is used. This is currently a very expensive way to make hydrogen and represents less than 0.4 percent of current hydrogen production.

Blue hydrogen is produced from methane – the “natural gas” currently piped to our homes for heating and cooking – using a process called steam reforming, which combines the methane with steam to produce hydrogen but also carbon dioxide which then needs to be captured and stored. The carbon capture part is the difficulty, with only one percent of existing projects including this capability.

Grey hydrogen is essentially blue hydrogen but without the carbon capture part. Almost all the hydrogen currently produced is made by this method.

Black and brown hydrogen are made from coal (black) or lignite (brown) and these methods emit even more carbon dioxide than grey hydrogen. This type of hydrogen is obviously not going to form part of the net zero pathway.

Pink hydrogen is generated through electrolysis powered by nuclear energy – this is also referred to as purple or red hydrogen. Like green hydrogen, this is zero-carbon but expensive.

Turquoise hydrogen is made using a process called methane pyrolysis to turn natural gas into hydrogen and solid carbon. This relatively new process is yet to be proven at scale, but the production of solid carbon would obviously reduce the challenges associated with carbon capture and storage.

Finally, white hydrogen is naturally occurring hydrogen, found in underground deposits. It might perhaps be extracted through fracking, a process already effectively banned in many places. It has been talked up for decades but, according to the National Grid, there are still “no strategies to exploit this hydrogen at present”.

Apart from the black and brown hydrogen this all sounds lovely. Quite literally, one can picture a gleaming future where horrible, sooty, carbon dioxide (because we all picture it as being sooty despite the fact it’s also colourless and odourless) is replaced with a beautiful rainbow of lovely, clean hydrogen, whose only byproduct on combustion with oxygen is water.

However, it is far from being that simple, or that clean. To begin with, hydrogen is one of the most explosive and flammable gases – the airship Hindenburg was filled with it – but its real challenges relate to the fact its molecules are very small and as a gas it has very low density. This means that hydrogen is hard to contain and large volumes of it are needed to generate much energy. You need around three times the volume of hydrogen as compared to methane to get the same amount of energy.

Tiny hydrogen molecules fit through tiny gaps, so structures designed to contain methane such as pipes, joints, boilers and cookers, and gas storage facilities such as tanks or geological formations (salt caverns or depleted gas fields) allow hydrogen molecules to escape where methane molecules would not. Tests suggest that the safety concerns this creates are mitigated by the lightness of hydrogen which means it quickly dissipates, but leakage also worsens the economics of using hydrogen as an energy store.

In other words, you need to use up almost a third of your gas just moving it from A to B.

Hydrogen is also hard to move around. To get gas to move through pipes it has to be compressed and pushed along using compressors. This process requires energy: the losses in moving hydrogen through pipes are ten times greater for hydrogen than for methane: up to thirty percent. In other words, you need to use up almost a third of your gas just moving it from A to B.

Hydrogen can also cause the metals in pipes and storage equipment to become brittle leading to material degradation and potential safety issues. Special materials or coatings may mitigate these effects, but they add further complexity and cost to an already complex and expensive system.

In fact, all of this is expensive. The infrastructure for hydrogen storage does not yet exist, neither for the most part do the production facilities and they will cost billions of pounds to build. Then the underlying cost of storing hydrogen is probably at least four times that of storing methane. Huge amounts of energy are lost in each stage of the process due to the fundamental properties of hydrogen.

Quite simply hydrogen is one of the worst substances you could choose for this purpose, but, because you can burn it in air without creating carbon dioxide, it has been hailed as the answer to net zero dreams.

Like its cousin, carbon capture, hydrogen energy storage is a backfill technology – a silver bullet that will enable the otherwise unlikely net zero target to be met, but neither actually exists yet. Both are square pegs which people are desperately trying to force into round holes.

Hydrogen of whatever colour is a hypothetical solution to the challenge of net zero, and an extremely expensive one at that. And this goes to the heart of the net zero problem: it relies on developing a range of solutions that are easy to say but difficult and expensive to do.

Who will be left to pay for all of this? We will.


Kathryn Porter is an independent energy consultant. She holds a Master’s degree in Physics and an MBA, and is an associate member of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Energy Studies executive council

38 Comments
  1. July 25, 2023 9:53 am

    This is why the Telegraph is the only paper worth reading.

  2. Hugh Sharman permalink
    July 25, 2023 9:55 am

    Thank you Paul! I hope this excellent, independent consultant, has more, real influence on decisions being made all over Europe than us, your faithful subscribers!

  3. sean2829 permalink
    July 25, 2023 9:59 am

    The color scheme for hydrogen simply means this is a marketing scheme for wind energy to create the illusion there is a solution for intermittent generation.

  4. CheshireRed permalink
    July 25, 2023 10:00 am

    A line by line, honest dismantling of the case for hydrogen, by a qualified expert.

    Expect her to be deplatformed soon!

  5. David permalink
    July 25, 2023 10:03 am

    It occurs to me that to combine oxygen with hydrogen to make water would eventually leave us without enough oxygen in the air and rising sea levels: but of course as with everything its all in the math.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 25, 2023 10:38 pm

      Numbers really do matter. Oxygen is actually poisonous to humans in too large a dose.

      • guzziver permalink
        July 26, 2023 8:38 am

        Oxygen is only toxic when inhaled in high concentrations over a prolonged period, or at higher pressures. The odd bit leaking out into a space occupied by people poses no bio hazzard as such.

  6. Realist permalink
    July 25, 2023 10:11 am

    notify comments

  7. Charlie Flindt permalink
    July 25, 2023 10:15 am

    What baffles me about hydrogen is that the product of hydrogen combustion is a potent greenhouse gas. So, if hydrogen is being touted as the fuel of the future, then there obviously isn’t a problem with greenhouse gases. So there isn’t a problem with carbon dixode. So the whole house of ‘carbon [sic] emissions’ cards collapses.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      July 25, 2023 12:09 pm

      THE most potent, and abundant, greenhouse gas.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 25, 2023 12:47 pm

      It’s actually worse than that Charlie, burning hydrogen in oxygen can only produce water vapour but that is NOT what actually happens as hydrogen would be burned in air i.e. 80% nitrogen. The combustion temperature of hydrogen in air, unless very casrefully regulated, exceeds the temperature at which the surrounding oxygen and nitrogen combine to produce NOx. Now that really is a problematical gas. There was no way that tens of millions of points of combustion in domestic boilers, hobs and fires could be adequately regulated to reliably not create NOX. Some other problems are discussed here.
      https://www.thechemicalengineer.com/features/hydrogen-the-burning-question/

    • July 25, 2023 6:39 pm

      Well no one really seems to talk much about water vapour when discussing climate change which is surprising since burning hydrocarbons actually increase the amount of H2O on the plant and I can already imagine the Biblical Noah’s ark style great flood comparison.

  8. Graeme No.3 permalink
    July 25, 2023 11:37 am

    2 comments:
    Getting hydrogen from water requires 9 tons of water to make 1 ton of hydrogen. Might not be that hopeful where deserts (and good solar are available).
    Burning hydrogen in place of natural gas gives a deal of nitrous oxides (from its high ignition temperature), which are “naughty” greenhouse gases. e.g. diesels.

    • Mike A permalink
      July 25, 2023 2:08 pm

      I can see every reason for not using hydrogen. However, should the powers that be go down that path, if the oxygen was collected from the electrolysis as well, then the ‘burn’ could be just those two recombining. No nitrogen involved, and a more efficient combustion.

    • guzziver permalink
      July 25, 2023 2:10 pm

      Would only work if it was used near where it was generated. Piping oxygen around the place really would be ‘fun’.

      • Graeme No.3 permalink
        July 25, 2023 11:06 pm

        There is less danger of piping oxygen than hydrogen.
        The other problem is building an expensive plant (on seaside land) which would generate less electricity than goes in.

      • guzziver permalink
        July 26, 2023 8:33 am

        Piping oxygen requires much more stringent cleanliness that hydrogen does. The merest trace of oil/grease and other flammables can cause explosions – minor or otherwise. Not so with hydrogen, of course.

  9. Joe Public permalink
    July 25, 2023 11:47 am

    Kathryn is an Energy Consultant at Watt-Logic https://watt-logic.com

    …. and writes the https://watt-logic.com/blog/

    She writes many excellent energy articles

  10. Gamecock permalink
    July 25, 2023 11:48 am

    ‘can be solved by using excess renewable energy’

    As the move to renewables kills your energy supply, they speak of what they are going to do with the excess.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      July 25, 2023 12:13 pm

      The problem with unreliable intermittent energy supply is that at times you get more than you can use, just as at times you get next to nothing – this already happens. But being able to use the excess does not make the whole cost of such a bad energy supply choice any cheaper.

      • Gamecock permalink
        July 25, 2023 9:08 pm

        Sorry. I consider ‘excess’ a joke. As the UK moves forward with its NetZero flagellation, there will be less conventional generation, more renewable dependence, and higher electricity demand.

        There are times now when there can be excess, but the times are changing. Your energy future is bleak. ‘Excess,’ indeed.

  11. Edward Philip John Foster permalink
    July 25, 2023 11:57 am

    Blue Hydrogen, produced from methane, takes four times as much energy to produce as it gives back. Remember the water has to be converted to steam – hugely energy expensive process.

  12. billydick007 permalink
    July 25, 2023 1:40 pm

    Industrial sale Hydrogen production, regardless of its colour, is a chimera, much like the elusive Green Magic Unicorn we read so much about.

  13. king permalink
    July 25, 2023 2:16 pm

    No solution to the climate change problem, if it exists, is worth reducing the freedom of the American people. I would rather live in a free America with six feet of sea water flooding the streets of New Orleans, Miami, Charleston, NYC, and Boston than a less free America with dry streets in those cities.

  14. Gordon Hughes permalink
    July 25, 2023 4:01 pm

    I am sure Kathryn knows it but the current fad for transporting hydrogen is to use hydrogen from electrolysis to produce ammonia NH3. Ammonia is not pleasant stuff but it is easily liquefied and doesn’t require super-low temperatures for storage and transport in liquid form. Since ammonia is a key product for the fertiliser industry there is lots of experience of handling it in the chemical industry.

    The problem, as always, the energy costs of producing and breaking down ammonia. If you take the full cycle electricity/heat to electricity/heat via hydrogen no-one yet has got as low as 50% energy loss and that assumes a very efficient heat conversion process.

    The central point, which has been clear for decades to anyone who bothered to look, is that raw energy is cheap, but useful energy where and when you need it is expensive. That was the heart of the industrial revolution. Renewable energy has always been and remains cheap raw energy, but it isn’t a substitute for easily stored and controlled forms of useful energy! All of the real cost is in the transformation from raw to useful.

    • John Cullen permalink
      July 25, 2023 4:09 pm

      I would like to paraphrase and summarise professor Hughes’s comment as follows: renewable energy is like the NHS – it is free at the point-of-delivery but nowhere else.

      Regards,
      John.

  15. July 25, 2023 4:25 pm

    ‘In other words, you need to use up almost a third of your gas just moving it from A to B.’

    Fortunately economics can be ignored when you’re *saving the world*.

    • John Cullen permalink
      July 25, 2023 4:32 pm

      Hello Oldbrew,
      I thought we were not so much “Saving the world” as “Saving the world for rich people”, which is slightly different in effect upon pretty much everything. But perhaps I have misunderstood their intentions!

      Regards,
      John.

  16. John Cullen permalink
    July 25, 2023 4:27 pm

    If it is proposed to store hydrogen in liquid form so as to minimise its volume then we should be aware of the following major disadvantage [Ref. 1]. All the thermal properties, even the boiling point, change with the relative proportions of hydrogen’s two forms ortho- and para-hydrogen.

    As Guénault says, “Ortho-para conversion is a technical problem in H2 in its use in refrigeration … Hydrogen is best avoided in cryogenics!”

    Reference
    1. Tony Guénault, “Statistical Physics”, Chapman & Hall, 2nd ed., 1995, at page 88.

    Regards,
    John.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 25, 2023 10:30 pm

      Very much so. Electrolysis produces a higher proportion of ortho to para which subsequently drops down to the lower energetic state (para) releasing heat even without pressurisation. Start messing about pressurising hydrogen and you get even more rapid drop down/heat release. Add to this the unusual Joule Thomson effect of hydrogen and the decompression throttling points heat up impressively quickly – not a good idea for such a volative and explosive gas!

    • guzziver permalink
      July 26, 2023 8:45 am

      I think the difference in physical properties are pretty minute – fractions of a degree as regards boiling point etc. and are primarily associated with its temperature. The chemical properties of both are the same, of course.

  17. July 25, 2023 4:57 pm

    ” hydrogen molecules to escape where methane molecules would not. Tests suggest that the safety concerns this creates are mitigated by the lightness of hydrogen which means it quickly dissipates, but leakage also worsens the economics of using hydrogen as an energy store.”
    —-

    Isn’t hydrogen meant to be an ozone depleting gas too so it clearly can’t be used to replace natural gas in the existing gas grid if this will result in any hydrogen gas escaping unburnt in normal use.

    Also hydrogen gas may be an indirect greenhouse gas.

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/hydrogen-fuel-is-hostile-to-stratospheric-ozone-13247 problem from gas hydrogen

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/760538/Hydrogen_atmospheric_impact_report.pdf (pg. 6)

  18. JohnM permalink
    July 25, 2023 5:33 pm

    I have a cunning plan.

    Make Turquoise hydrogen from natural gas turning it into hydrogen and solid carbon.

    Burn the solid carbon and make Black hydrogen.

    What could go wrong????? {This is the sort of technology and economics the the greenies love.}

    Sarc off.

  19. dennisambler permalink
    July 26, 2023 1:58 pm

    “green, blue, brown, yellow, turquoise and pink hydrogen. ”

    Burn it with Pride!

    • DevonBlueBoy permalink
      July 26, 2023 3:27 pm

      Doesn’t pride come before a fall?

  20. guzziver permalink
    July 26, 2023 2:34 pm

    Wonderful!

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