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Melting ice reveals dozens of 7,000-year-old artifacts in Canada.

November 22, 2023
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By Paul Homewood

 

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Archaeologists surveyed melting ice patches in Canada and uncovered dozens of ancient artifacts spanning 7,000 years. Photos show the “unique” — and perishable — finds.

After two winters with “extremely low snowpack,” researchers set out to survey several melting ice patches in Mount Edziza Provincial Park in the summer of 2019, according to a study published Oct. 31 in the Journal of Field Archaeology.

Mount Edziza Provincial Park is a volcanic landscape that is “extremely significant” to the Tahltan, one of Canada’s indigenous First Nations, the study said. The Tahltan have used the mountains for seasonal hunts for centuries and continue to do so today.

Previous scientists had located many “vast obsidian quarries” and obsidian artifacts in the park, but the nearby ice patches had not been studied as extensively. Researchers said they were intrigued by the possibility of finding perishable ancient artifacts preserved in the ice.

So as the ice melted under the summer sun, researchers visited nine ice patches — and found 56 perishable artifacts, the study said.

“Most of the perishable artifacts were manufactured from wood, including birch bark containers, projectile shafts, and walking staffs,” researchers said. Other artifacts were made “using animal remains include a stitched hide boot and carved antler and bone tools.”

A 3,000-year-old pair of stick wrapped in animal hide found in the ice.

A 3,000-year-old pair of stick wrapped in animal hide found in the ice.

Archaeologists found two bark containers with stitching. A photo shows one of these containers. The 2,000-year-old piece of bark is folded with two rows of stitching along one side and some of the stitching material still left in the holes, the study said.

The other “unique” bark container has sticks stitched into its sides, suggesting it was part of a reinforced basket used for transporting heavy loads. Researchers said it dated back over 1,400 years.

Archaeologists also uncovered an artifact made of stitched animal hide that they identified as the remains of a moccasin-like boot. A photo shows the 6,200-year-old fabric. It has “two different thicknesses of hide … which have been stitched in multiple places,” the study said.

Mount Edziza Provincial Park is in British Columbia and near the Canada-U.S. border with Alaska. The park is about 660 miles northwest of Vancouver and about 155 miles southeast of Juneau.

https://news.yahoo.com/melting-ice-reveals-dozens-7-221609873.html

Now I wonder why they went to all that bother burying things under the ice 7000 years ago?

30 Comments
  1. Jack Broughton permalink
    November 22, 2023 8:11 pm

    Maybe if these “Climate Scientists” read the works of HH Lamb they would save the world from a lot of anguish. He showed that glaciation could occur very rapidly, and that the climate can alter massively, under purely natural effects, over relatively short time-scales. Sadly observational science has been supplanted by models and fear campaigns. It is far harder work to measure things than predict them (without proving the models of course).

    • November 23, 2023 10:45 am

      Indeed. And Lamb’s work is highly accessible even unto a lay person such as myself. Had to skip some of the equations, but everything else in the book I read of his, “Climate History and The Modern World” was very informative.

      ISBN 9780416334401

  2. H Davis permalink
    November 22, 2023 8:30 pm

    For those that haven’t looked at a map yet, the park is just north of Alaska’s most southern border.

    Mount Edziza Park
    Telegraph Creek BC, Canada
    57.6424608399268″ N, 130.639801025391″ W

    • Gamecock permalink
      November 22, 2023 9:49 pm

      I looked at it on Google Earth. Over the last 25 years, I see little change in the ice cover. So I’m suspicious of the ‘melting ice’ story. I’m thinking they just went up and looked around.

      ‘Archaeologists surveyed melting ice patches in Canada and uncovered dozens of ancient artifacts spanning 7,000 years. Photos show the “unique” — and perishable — finds.

      After two winters with “extremely low snowpack,” researchers set out to survey several melting ice patches’

      • November 22, 2023 10:25 pm

        My edition of google Earth professional goes back almost 40 years to 1984 giving images every year in December. I also could not see any discernible ice cover reduction. I am equally sceptical. Amazing what researchers can find if they are “trying really hard” isn’t it.

      • November 23, 2023 10:46 am

        Whatever controls the advance and retreat of glaciers, one thing is for sure – CO2 is nothing to do with it.

      • gezza1298 permalink
        November 23, 2023 11:04 am

        Is it possible that the ice has thinned enough for them to get through which would not necessarily show on satellite images?

      • Gamecock permalink
        November 23, 2023 11:27 am

        Sure, gezza. But Occam says it’s journalistic flourish.

      • michael hart permalink
        November 24, 2023 1:51 pm

        I doubt the human eye can tell much melting-around-the-edges simply by looking at Google earth.

        It’s not like the whole thing has to melt for more land to be exposed from under the ice.

        I am inclined to give credit to local sources who think a small patch of of previously-unexposed land has appeared after a couple more dry or warm winters during a generalised warming period.

  3. 1saveenergy permalink
    November 22, 2023 9:21 pm

    More pics here
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/world/article282110078.html

  4. In The Real World permalink
    November 22, 2023 9:28 pm

    There was a similar finding in Greenland in the 1930s , when it was hotter than now .
    Viking villages from over a thousand years ago were uncovered from under the ice , having not been seen since that time .
    But they are now under about 60 ft of ice again as the world is not getting
    ” Global Boiling ” , but occasional warm spells in various places .

  5. November 22, 2023 10:25 pm

    Answers are in ice core records.
    In warmest times, the Arctic Ocean is thawed and evaporation and snowfall builds massive piles of ice around the Arctic on Greenland Iceland and on the Northern regions of the continents. When the ice gets deep and heavy, it flows and increases ice extent rapidly. This does cause, and is not a result, of rapid cooling. The ice sheets spread and last as long as it takes to thaw and thin the ice sheets. In the coldest times evaporation of polar oceans is halted by sea ice and the evaporation and snowfall is not enough to maintain the ice sheets. When the ice sheets are depleted of ice, the thinned ice sheets thaw and retreat rapidly. These natural warm and cold times do resonate with changing forcing from the sun, Milosevic, sun spots, whatever, sometimes in phase and sometimes out of phase, but always in phase with ice extent, coldest times always correlate with more ice extent and warmest times always correlate with less ice extent.
    This internal, natural, self-correcting climate response is not studied, understood or taught to the students who become “so called” climate scientists and not explained to the public.

    • November 23, 2023 8:07 am

      Ice core records also showed the 25 or so “Dansgaard events” – periods of rapid warming – e.g. 5 degrees in 50 years.

      https://www.britannica.com/science/Dansgaard-Oeschger-event

      From Britannica: “Among the surprises that have emerged from analyses of oxygen isotopes in ice cores (long cylinders of ice collected by drilling through glaciers and ice sheets) has been the recognition of very sudden, short-lived climate changes. Ice core records in samples extracted from Greenland, Antarctica, Canada’s Arctic Archipelago, and high mountain glaciers in South America show that these climate changes have been large, very rapid, and globally synchronous.”
      —–

      My view is that as well as these wide swings in temperature that have been identified, there are probably a lot more small changes for which the signal is too weak to show up.

      • November 24, 2023 7:26 am

        This was written:
        Ice core records also showed the 25 or so “Dansgaard events” – periods of rapid warming – e.g. 5 degrees in 50 years.

        This was also written:
        The processes behind the timing and amplitude of these events (as recorded in ice cores) are still unclear.

        It is all clear to me, melt water surges flowed into the arctic which quickly caused warming with evaporation and snowfall that did cause cooling as soon as the melt water was depleted to the state that the rest of the water froze.

    • November 23, 2023 10:48 am

      Milosevic? No, Milankovitch! You confused your …vics…

  6. frankobaysio permalink
    November 23, 2023 10:12 am

    Latest BBC deluded casual unverified comments. On BBC Breakfast this morning at 9.08am there was a short item by Victoria Gill on the Blue Whale making a resurgence in the Seychelles. Final encouraging commentary included. “These whales are vital to the health of our Oceans, they lock up enormous amounts of carbon in their huge bodies” I would have thought that every arrival at the surface, and the expulsion through their blow holes would have added a large amount of net C02 to the world ….??

    • Mike permalink
      November 23, 2023 10:44 am

      Perhaps like me they’re reducing their ‘carbon footprint’ by only exhaling every second breath! 😉

    • November 23, 2023 10:50 am

      A while back this year, the BBC Misinformation Service noted that the population of Red Admiral butterflies had seemed to increase significantly this year. As a result, they said, of it being warmer.

      The failure to spot the irony in that was as clear as a bell…

      • gezza1298 permalink
        November 23, 2023 11:08 am

        This is where there was a paper that claimed that due to the ‘boiling’ heat, butterflies were migrating northwards and so very bad. But what the paper somehow managed to leave out was that the butterfly range was not moving north, the northern limit was moving north which was increasing the butterfly range. Good news one would think.

  7. November 23, 2023 10:52 am

    Do I HAVE to have this bloody pop-up every time I want to comment?

    “Never miss a beat!
    Interested in getting blog post updates? Simply click the button below to stay in the loop!”

    Not only does it blank the comment field, when closed, you go back to the title of the article, so have to scroll back down again. Brave (Chrome based) browser.

    Paul – this is recent and unwanted!

  8. gezza1298 permalink
    November 23, 2023 11:13 am

    No doubt a new article will look at the new increased energy price cap, not so much because inevitably it has risen, but the focus is moving to the standing charge. Martin Lewis has a nice pie chart on the costs included in the standing charge, but he fails to make any connection with the vastly increased grid management costs due to unreliable wind and solar. As well as the increased costs of trying to deal with increased electricity demand on the grid and connecting remote generation. All roads lead back to Net Zero.

  9. frankobaysio permalink
    November 23, 2023 1:12 pm

    Maybe this is the BBC “Source” of the information on the contribution of Whales to Saving the Planet mentioned on BBC Breakfast.
    https://us.whales.org/green-whale/
    An amazing fact is that apparently “Whales play a vital role in the marine ecosystem where they help provide at least half of the oxygen you breathe, combat climate change, and sustain fish stocks.” Why are we bothering with Carbon Capture and Storage then, at a cost of £20 Billion that would build 40 new state of the Art £500 Million Hospitals? Apparently when whales die and fall to the sea floor they each save, “for millions of years” 32 tons of Carbon.

    • Gamecock permalink
      November 23, 2023 1:38 pm

      “Remember, children, 8% of the ocean is whale piss.”

    • Gamecock permalink
      November 23, 2023 1:52 pm

      ‘Whales play a vital role in the marine ecosystem where they help provide at least half of the oxygen you breathe’

      Which half?

      So then, when it comes to evolution, the whale had to come before plankton.

      With few whale visits to the SE US coast, the poor plankton out there must be suffering.

  10. November 23, 2023 3:14 pm

    A case of “scientists” not following the science in spite of the facts???? I hope people are catching on to this and a lot of other stuff.

    Common sense still works. And climate still changes from cold to warm and back and back again.

  11. Rossmore permalink
    November 23, 2023 5:32 pm

    Similar findings have been made in Norway. As glacier edges retract artefacts from prehistoric periods are revealed and found. Signs that prehistoric hunters dwelled in that area ages ago for some rational reasons (e.g. prey like reindeer track the snow limit in summer to avoid mosquitoes). It’s really a sign of two things: 1. It’s warmer now than previously. 2. Previously it was about as warm as now.

    I.e. whether or not we’re experiencing “global boiling” right now, it’s not the first time.

  12. M E Emberson permalink
    November 24, 2023 2:00 am

    Thanks. As a former archaeology student. Similar finds were found in bogs I think. Designated Mesolithic in the terminology of the day .Hunter gatherers in northern forests . Europe

  13. energywise permalink
    November 24, 2023 12:59 pm

    So must have been there before the ice, my, my, my

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