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Stormy Weather Ushered In The Little Ice Age – HH Lamb

December 10, 2015
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By Paul Homewood

 

Anybody who thinks that storms around the UK have anything to do with global warming should read what HH Lamb had to say about the period around the 13th and 14thC , when the warmth of the medieval period was beginning to disappear:

 

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Lamb also comments about the Bolton Moss Curve, which has direct relevance to the floods in the North West currently:

 

 

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Clearly, the area around Carlisle has had many extremely wet periods in the past, and the early 20thC period can be regarded as drier than most.

We know that the wet weather experienced in the UK in recent years, such as the wet summer of 2012, and winter of 2013/14, as well as recent flooding, has been the direct result of the behaviour of the jet stream. We also know know that the cooling Arctic is currently producing the same sort of strengthened thermal gradient that Lamb talked about.

While the CO2 obsessed Met Office tries to blame every bit of bad weather on global warming, it is surely time for proper scientists to see what they can learn from history. 

  

 

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All are excerpts from HH Lamb’s Climate, History and the Modern World.  

11 Comments
  1. December 10, 2015 1:14 pm

    It actually requires very little cooling to greatly affect weather. Snow does not melt as soon or at all and the air coming off large areas of un-melted snow affects the temperatures and vegetation to the south. During the last glacial episode, the glacial terminus was some 125 mi. north of WV, but had a great effect allowing northern vegetation to survive here. It is now found in pockets in the highest elevations as relict communities. Along with increased moisture, there is increased cloud cover. The lower temperatures, increased rainfall and accompanying cloud cover make for shifts in the vegetation and hinder farm production.

  2. December 10, 2015 1:18 pm

    Thanks, Paul.
    HH Lamb’s book is fascinating!

  3. December 10, 2015 1:26 pm

    Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
    “While the CO2 obsessed Met Office tries to blame every bit of bad weather on global warming, it is surely time for proper scientists to see what they can learn from history.”

    Amen to that. However, hell will freeze over before government funded climate scientists dare challenge the groupthink climate orthodoxy with historical references that question the veracity of their ‘unprecedented’ climate change rhetoric.

    What’s more, a breakaway from their groupthink pet cause would result in funding cuts, isolation and God forbid, being labelled a heretic and a “denier” of science.

  4. tom0mason permalink
    December 10, 2015 2:46 pm

    How is it possible that a person can, just by the application of logic to careful and meticulous inspection of many historic records from around the world, come to such conclusions.
    Surely only recent measurements processed by very sophisticated computer systems can possibly interpret how climate changes catastrphically.

    — /sarc_off.

  5. December 10, 2015 4:42 pm

    Very interesting, and not good news when we have a Government that is trying to ensure that we don’t have a reliable and affordable electricity supply.

  6. John F. Hultquist permalink
    December 10, 2015 6:54 pm

    From Lamb:
    … and (b) when a cooling Arctic has produced a strengthened thermal gradient …

    I’ve never understood why the cAGW crowd thinks a warming Arctic region producing a weakened thermal gradient should lead to more nasty weather. The science of this is not all that difficult. Well, okay, maybe it is for The amazing Sarah Montague

    ***Paul,
    I made a link to you at Bishop Hill today. On the floods, regarding Thirlmere.***

  7. December 10, 2015 11:19 pm

    On the east coast such a scenario would be quite terrible, if anything like that mentioned here were to reoccur- http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/05/drowned-villages-of-lincolnshire.html

  8. December 11, 2015 2:31 am

    You just turned Lamb into an official climate change denier.

    History is all about ordinary other people and ordinary other times. We are talking, instead, about the recent present post-1950’s, in which the people are extraordinary and the times, special. One has no relevance to the other.

    Slingo or Obama know this deeply, for they are part of the extraordinary crowd in the current special times.

    Commonsense is for commoners. That is why skeptics don’t win arguments using common sense or facts. The elite are above such common things. That which is extraordinary requires special interpretations beyond mere men as you or I.

    The waste and loss of opportunity Gore and COP21 represent is what is extraordinary. The antihuman enviro urge to self-destruction these days is what is special.

    Will even the failure of COP21 be enough to turn public opinion against the CO2 assault? Somehow doubt it.

  9. December 11, 2015 12:13 pm

    Reblogged this on WeatherAction News.

  10. January 18, 2016 8:26 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections and commented:
    Paul Homewood references one of my favorite texts on climate: HH Lamb.

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