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Eating less meat won’t ‘save the planet’

July 16, 2021
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By Paul Homewood

 

 

This is the best exposee I have seen yet, which debunks claims that we should stop eating meat to save the planet.

It’s worth sticking with for the full 23 minutes:

 

 

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49 Comments
  1. Ian Magness permalink
    July 16, 2021 10:27 am

    Excellent!

  2. PaulM permalink
    July 16, 2021 10:32 am

    Superbly detailed overview

  3. Luc Ozade permalink
    July 16, 2021 11:12 am

    Wonderful. But will ‘they’ listen? Highly doubtful (as L/corporal Jones was fond of saying in Dad’s Army: “They don’t like it up ’em”).

  4. Thomas Carr permalink
    July 16, 2021 11:25 am

    I hope that this gets as far as the President of the NFU Minette Batters. I will do what I can to get the exposee through to her. The trouble is that she is already a bit on the defensive when I have heard her speak on the radio.
    Similarly there has been a very good interview with an ex BBC man recorded by the Tax Payers Alliance who are for the abolition of the licence fee which I would like to get through to all Paul’s readers but I’m not sure how. I can get the TPA to release it but to whom. I need Paul’s e-m address at least.

    • Ian Wilson permalink
      July 16, 2021 3:25 pm

      I resigned from the NFU due to their fatuous ‘zero carbon’ policy – as CO2 stimulates plant growth the NFU must be the only union working to reduce its members’ incomes.
      Much of this video is excellent but it still seems to buy into the premise that CO2 drives climate change which to me spoils its impact.

      • Duker permalink
        July 17, 2021 5:20 am

        Grass is carbon neutral already.
        Farming is a primary industry because its based on sunshine, air and what grows in the ground.

  5. GeoffB permalink
    July 16, 2021 11:29 am

    Interesting, give me some ammunition to disprove the do not eat meat claims, I also read somewhere that vegans suffer from some sort of malnutrition from lack of meat. It does however seem to agree that CO2 is causing global warming! But I suppose we have to refute one subject at a time, after all we are dealing with rather simple, easily lead individuals.

    • Luc Ozade permalink
      July 16, 2021 11:38 am

      @ GeoffB

      “… after all we are dealing with rather simple, easily lead individuals.”

      “… after all we are dealing with science-ignorant fools, idiots and incompetents.”.

      There! FIFY

      • GeoffB permalink
        July 16, 2021 5:26 pm

        I was careful with words, I got moderated and then banned on the guardian comments for calling them “green loonies”

    • July 16, 2021 11:53 am

      Geoff

      I have been a vegetarian for over 50 years with no detriment but being vegan is much more severe. They also like to be evangelistic about it and demand that you turn vegan to save the planet.

      Bearing in mind so much of their produce is imported and stuff like Avocados has a very bad press regarding rain forests and exploitation, it is difficult to see why they are so pious. Almond milk anyone?

      • Broadlands permalink
        July 16, 2021 12:14 pm

        Meat or no meat, it’s hard to save a planet that’s in no immediate danger from man-made CO2. Many more things to worry about.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 16, 2021 12:54 pm

      Hi Geoff, my reply posted seperately below

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      July 16, 2021 1:55 pm

      But paying more ‘green’ taxes will…..

    • NeilC permalink
      July 17, 2021 7:15 am

      Geoff, have a look at https://www.weather-research.com/weather-and-genetics scroll down to Chinese food section and you find 11% of crucial genes needed by the body to maintain homeostasis and a healthy immune system are only found in meat and some seafood.

      humans have evolved to be omnivores.

  6. July 16, 2021 11:49 am

    Great video. Thanks.

    Also this

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/06/19/vegandiet/

  7. Harry Passfield permalink
    July 16, 2021 12:39 pm

    The wonderful Ken Bruce was doing his link with the thicko Vine yesterday and Vine explained that he would be covering this and saying that we should all give up meat. Bruce pointed out to him that if we all stopped eating meat there would be no need for cows etc so they could end up going extinct. Vine had to admit that he hadn’t considered that. I guess he thought that farmers would keep animals as pets or something….. Face/palm!

  8. Patsy Lacey permalink
    July 16, 2021 12:45 pm

    So the scion of the broadcasting family and former Bullingdon club chum of Johnson and Cameron, Henry Dimbleby, having made his fortune selling “Leon” a supposedly healthy fast food chain which in fact was less so than McDonalds thinks that we plebs ought to be taxed on the sugar and salt in food.
    How did he come to be the head of the National Food Strategy? Obviously best man for the job!!! How much did they pay him for coming up with his report which Johnson promptly rubbished having recognised a vote loser when he saw it?
    By contrast this in today’s DT
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/wrong-tell-people-stop-eating-meat/

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      July 16, 2021 1:37 pm

      I guess his report was commissioned for the same reason Hunter Biden’s ‘art’ is saleable – the well-known brushstroke: the backhander.

    • Devoncamel permalink
      July 16, 2021 3:59 pm

      I read that article, good to see some balance in the debate, which you won’t find on the BBC.
      Tell rural folk and farmers in Devon that cows need to be replaced by lab meet, as Dimbleby suggests, and you’ll get short shrift

  9. Ray Sanders permalink
    July 16, 2021 12:46 pm

    Hi Geoff, I am not an expert on the subject but a few years ago my daughter (16 at the time) decided to go vegan so I researched the issue to make sure she would be okay. There are a number of potential deficiencies in a vegan diet but most can be overcome by ensuring you eat the right things and often enough. The usual suspects are vitamins B12 & D, essential
    Omega 3 oil (alpha-linolenic acid) and minerals Iron, Zinc and Calcium. At worst a daily dose of a multi vitamin table with added minerals will suffice.
    However, a tricky one is Iodine and iodine deficiency can be a serious ailment also affecting omnivores. Many countries used to “Iodise” table salt and I believe the US still does though it was never done in the UK. Eggs, dairy and oily fish will sort out the problem but obviously not for vegans. Interestingly some of the iodine deficiency symptoms include attention deficiency disorders and depression – rather worrying for the “younger generation” of Greta followers.
    If you really want to upset a vegan though raise the issue of the modern faux meat burgers.
    Irion comes in two forms – heme iron mostly in meat which is naturally very tasty, and non heme iron mostly from vegetables which does not taste as good and is harder for your body to absorb. So the agricultural scientists genetically modified peas to produce more heme iron to make burger taste more “meaty”.

  10. Broadlands permalink
    July 16, 2021 1:33 pm

    It seems to have been overlooked that if an increasing number of humans don’t eat meat they will necessarily have to eat vegetation. And it won’t be grass that cows eat. When that happens the CO2 that was “captured” by those plants along with what the cows eat, will soon be back in the atmosphere. It’s hard to fool Mother Nature’s carbon cycle…to save the planet.

  11. garret seinen permalink
    July 16, 2021 2:40 pm

    Good analysis of the meatless movement’s misrepresentation of facts but the root their argument fails on principle. Tragically, they accept that there is a manmade climate problem.

    • bobn permalink
      July 17, 2021 1:27 am

      Yes it was good for the first half and then went awol. Failed completely to highlight that the primary greenhouse gas is H20. Methane is a minute 0.003% gas and Co2 0.041% . But H20 varies up to 5% of atmosphere and has a far more powerful energy absorption than methane or co2. The video really coped out here and sold out. Sad that they didnt have the confidence to tell the whole truth.

  12. A McKay permalink
    July 16, 2021 3:26 pm

    Excellent video on meat eating. Also see the article by farmer Jamie Blackett in today’s Daily Telegraph.

  13. Crowcatcher permalink
    July 16, 2021 3:36 pm

    I always remember the days when BBC R4 used to do “proper” science programmes.
    ‘Home Planet’ was axed because Prof. Philip Stott was decidedly sceptic about AGW.
    Anyway in the very last one of the series the introduced a soil expert as a ghest and she was absolutely adamant that “animals are absolutely essential to the health of soil” – ‘nough said.

    • JBW permalink
      July 16, 2021 5:49 pm

      Just had a talk about a nature reserve on the south coast, which is short of nutrients so they introduce sheep grazing during the winter to improve the health of the soil.

  14. July 16, 2021 3:40 pm

    OK there are 2 connections as we at CliScep monitor Green PR stories being inserted into News stories
    #1 ITV local news at the Great Yorkshire show had an an extensive item with James Johnson of NFU Future Farming
    The Global Warming alarmism was turned up to 11

    #2 The Vegan supremacist blockade of the McDonald’s factory in Scunthorpe
    At 2pm BBC Radio Humberside inserted two #GreenPRasNews items into a 3 minute bulletin
    Item #2 “Police are now negotiating with 2 protesters who are on the factory roof.
    Here’s a clip of Prof Sarah Bridle food and Climate specialist at Manchester “</b.
    WTF uncontested statement from an anti-meat activist !

    Bridle “Farm animals like cattle and sheep cause HALF of the UK’s emissions ..pause .. just in METHANE
    (Clever cherry pick there. Farming animals does cause much CO2, so she’s moved to methane )
    .. Globally about 85% of farm land is used to feed livestock
    so globally on avg producing animal based foods uses 16 times as much land as the same number of calories for plant based food.”

    (Probably some cherrypicking there
    If I grow 1Kg of sugar, it will have much more calories than 1Kg of meat

    Mentioned Bridle before. She did used to be a Prof at Manchester in Astrophysics but then she switched to become a full time climate Activist .. https://twitter.com/No2BS/status/1366666869109850116

    She’s an activist with @FixOurFood, does a lot of GlobalWarming PR work, she has a new book out
    eg in the Times June 25th
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-to-cut-the-environmental-impact-of-what-you-eat-mh6mvt7jp

    • July 16, 2021 3:42 pm

      The second #GreenPRasNews item there
      Item #4 Project to make a NEW salt marsh at Skeffling near Hull
      probably seaside land that was once drained for agriculture.
      “Parts of the sea wall will be cut to allow salt water in
      Each hectare will sink 4 tonnes of carbon annually
      contributing the UK’s Zero-Carbon economy”

      …erm ..It’s not a new project. Here’s a Dec 2018 page
      https://consult.environment-agency.gov.uk/yorkshire/outstrays-to-skeffling-managed-realignment-scheme

      Both of those items were only dropped into the 2pm news
      Not 1pm or 3pm news

  15. mwhite permalink
    July 16, 2021 4:25 pm

    Carnivorous animals have more acidic stomachs than vegetarians.

    A human stomach is more acidic than that of a lion…..

  16. MrGrimNasty permalink
    July 16, 2021 4:49 pm

    Food ‘waste’ is another stupid exaggeration if you think about it. Nearly nothing is permanently added or removed from the natural nutrient/water/carbon cycles, even if it is just buried in a big hole.

    And I see the BBC has changed its Europe flood coverage to ‘worst in decades’ on the lunchtime news, downgraded from ‘unprecedented’ yesterday. That’s what happens when news readers just make claims up.

    • Duker permalink
      July 17, 2021 5:27 am

      NY Times is calling German floods ‘worst in 1000 yrs’ …they are running out of hyperbole.
      In reality theres not too much difference between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000 which isnt comparable in any case because of way catchments change even in 50 yrs

  17. tom0mason permalink
    July 16, 2021 7:20 pm

    Ideas of banning real meat so that the potentially multi-billion industry of manufactured foods can flourish. Manufacturing foods conjured-up in highly automated antiseptic factories from disassembled plant parts unnaturally recombined and glued together with industrial chemicals then disguised as a meat type product. It’s a con!

    This serves to reinforce the notion that man is apart from nature and not a part of nature.

    • roger permalink
      July 16, 2021 11:51 pm

      Not just food manufacturers but also the subsidy farmers as intimated by the NFU guy who was being interviewed about this report. He was drooling at the prospect that subsidies would have to be paid to offset the cost of this intervention thus adding to the grotesque amounts already paid to the landowners to do nothing and who are over represented in our mother of protection rackets in Westminster.
      Nothing much has changed since 1066. The Robber Barons are just as active now as they have always been, and this would be a nice little earner to go alongside the renewables scam from which they are prime beneficiaries. Did I mention the forestry? And the standby generators? And the setaside? And the Wilding? And the riparian margins?
      There are just so many wizard schemes they have to employ factors to monitor these unproductive practises.
      We are literally being right royally rodgered

      • tom0mason permalink
        July 17, 2021 9:39 am

        Well said roger!

  18. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    July 16, 2021 7:32 pm

    Animals are sentient beings. If they are to be kept and slaughtered to feed humans let it be without pain and suffering. Plus remember their feed may not be too healthy.
    Just with the lying cults and cli-NO-mate derange, their is much smoke and black mirrors.

  19. July 16, 2021 8:39 pm

    “I feel so sorry for these guys,
    if their ancestors hadn’t eaten meat,
    then they wouldn’t have had the brain capacity to protest!”

  20. Mack permalink
    July 16, 2021 9:50 pm

    In a nutshell: Replacing beef, dairy, pigs and chickens with er…..green crap actually increases mankind’s global co2 footprint and makes bugger all difference to the weather. Who knew? Next……

    • Duker permalink
      July 17, 2021 5:30 am

      Grass is already carbon neutral

  21. It doesn't add up... permalink
    July 17, 2021 2:48 am

    A few days ago there was a highly knowledgeable farmer on GBNews with Colin Brazier. Very good value for debunking green myths surrounding meat and dairy farming in the UK.

  22. MrGrimNasty permalink
    July 17, 2021 11:21 am

    The 2020 ‘covid effect’ on global CO2 emissions was a mere -5.5% according to this.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/16/global-man-made-co2-emissions-1965-2020-bp-data/

    Some people seem to believe it was enormous and should be obvious in the atmospheric CO2 levels. Obviously even if you assumed/believed man was directly causing each yearly increment, that would amount to no more than noise, 1/10th PPM or so.

  23. Mad Mike permalink
    July 17, 2021 11:25 am

    You may remember Alan Savory and his project that is helping with dedesertification. He also said it will help with climate change. Nobody is perfect. His project is to re-introduce livestock into the affected areas and, hey presto, the greening starts. He doesn’t suggest we should not eat the meat.

  24. C Lynch permalink
    July 17, 2021 12:24 pm

    This isn’t about “saving the planet”. It’s about zealots using a fashionable scare as a Trojan Horse to impose their extremism on the rest of us.

  25. Ray Sanders permalink
    July 17, 2021 5:24 pm

    Here is a fascinating article in the Guardian authored by “Rosemary Green is an associate professor in sustainability, nutrition and health at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine”
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/16/britains-meat-consumption-national-food-strategy-diet-climate
    Her Linked-In page is very illuminating
    https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rosemary-green-37042473
    Can somebody, anybody(!) explain to me how a BA in Music from the University of Nottingham gets you into such an elevated position.

  26. graham permalink
    July 18, 2021 6:04 am

    when are people going to see that climate change is a big money making project WATCH HOW THE CONTINENTS WERE FORMED and you will learn all about the evolvement of the planet and how it still is

  27. July 18, 2021 12:10 pm

    There is a reason why the term “food chain” exists.

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