What Green Job Revolution ?
By Paul Homewood
https://www.cityam.com/uk-green-jobs-25-times-faster-hit-target-job-site/
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Below is the Press Release from Indeed, the company who prepared the analysis:
GOVERNMENT’S GREEN JOBS REVOLUTION NEEDS TO SPEED UP BY 25 TIMES TO HIT TARGET
- UK green jobs need to be created 25 times faster than the current pace[1] to hit the Government’s target of 440,000 by 2030[2], according to analysis by the world’s largest job site Indeed
- Ministers have announced sweeping new targets for homes and vehicles in a bid to reach its net zero commitments, but Indeed analysis shows the Green Industrial Revolution could be “tripped up” by the acute lack of green workers
- Salaries below the UK average persist in many of the most common green jobs[3], while the North East of England and Wales have the highest concentrations of workers in the green economy[4]
London, 20th October 2021 – Green jobs need to be created at 25 times the current rate[1] if the Government is to meet its target of 440,000 new jobs in green industries by 2030[2], according to new analysis by the world’s largest job site Indeed.
The UK’s low carbon and renewable energy economy is in the spotlight as it prepares to host the COP26 international summit on climate change in November. Ministers have this week announced grants worth thousands of pounds to encourage homeowners to switch to greener heating, as well as money for on-street charging points for electric vehicles and the development of alternative energy sources.
Government plans to end the sale of gas boilers by 2035[5] underline the need for more jobs to be created in the green economy as technologies evolve rapidly and new technicians and installers are required.
Indeed’s analysis of postings on its platform showed the share of green job vacancies rose by 13% between January 2016 and October 2021, but that it still remains low at around 2,000 green roles per million job postings (0.2%).
The study suggests new green jobs need to be created at approximately 25 times the current pace if the UK is to meet the Government’s target by the end of the decade.
Chart: Green job postings per million[1]
The most common green job vacancies this year are for recycling workers, representing 19% of all green job postings on Indeed. This is followed by environmental managers, with 15% of postings, and ecologists at 10%[3].
Government announcements on green jobs have often described the roles as being “good quality” jobs but Indeed’s analysis shows typical salaries for green vacancies are mixed.
The median £18,720 pay for recycling workers is significantly lower than the UK average full-time annual salary of £31,000[6]. Environmental managers, with an average salary of £37,500, and sustainability consultants (£42,500) are relatively well-paid roles in comparison, while other common green jobs tend to pay close to or below the UK average.
Table: Most common green jobs with median advertised salaries[3]
There is nothing new in this of course. Going back to Gordon Brown’s days, he was promising hundreds of thousands of green jobs, which never materialised.
But what is really hilarious is the mix of jobs.
Over a third of them are assorted “managers, consultants and the like”. Another 19% are recycling workers, who might be very worthy, but are not the sort of jobs promised by proponents of Net Zero.
From the table above, which adds up to 76%, only the Insulator and Wind Turbine Technician have any bearing on the matter.
In fact, I suspect Indeed have overestimated the number of new jobs, because some of these vacancies will be replacing existing employees.
The target of 440,000 new green jobs by 2030 would imply a rate of about 50,000 a year. The study reckons that at the current rate the actual figure is 2000.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
And the hundreds of thousands of heat pump installers necessary?
They need willing buyers first. Good luck with that.
More ‘Green Job’ BS, different day.
This PM, Bozo Johnson, continues the ‘BS for brains Brown’ path of de-industrializing the UK. Soon there will be only the privileged, uber-rich, old moneyed and city types, and the rest of us stuck in poverty cycles, where health is sacrificed for a crumb of freedom.
“Build Back Better”? I think not!
We need someone to spearhead “Build Back Brainer”!!
Boris Johnson is either going out of his mind or wanting to impress his wife and father, or sees the need to impress delegates for Cop26 before the error of his ways dawns on him. His increasingly unbelievable outpourings must be ridiculed even by his closest supporters. Surely the rest of the Cabinet will have the courage to say enough is enough to the Prime Minister before long. Perhaps we will have to wait until the waste and failure of Cop26 before that happens, but it has to happen soon to save us all.
George: couldn’t agree more. The Bozo is openly showing that he actually doesn’t want t to be PM.
I am sure Green Jobs will match Saudi Arabia of Wind in hopes destroyed.
UK green jobs need to be created 25 times faster than the current pace[1] to hit the Government’s target of 440,000 by 2030.
None of that can take place without carbon fuels for transportation. Same for those delegates flying in and out to discuss this emergency….emitting CO2 in the process.
Nope, he’s the narcissist, power hungry chump, who grabbed the poisoned chalice of Brexit with both hands, whilst the rest went “Phew, we’ll let him take the flak, then pick up the bits later.”
Along came Covid & the results of his Bodged Brexit have been somewhat hidden, so the knives were resheathed to await another opportunity.
My thoughts exactly, Bozo has all the hallmarks of a lucky politician. His luck can’t last forever but it may last long enough to ruin us all. Margaret Thatcher was lucky that the Argentine Junta made her invulnerable for a decade, from being the most unpopular PM ever at the time. Let’s hope getting Brexit done doesn’t do the same for Bozo
Ah yes, the bodge is hidden but Remainers just know it’s there.
Talk us through all the Remainer failed predictions. Here’s just a few:
500k unemployed
House price crash
No FDI
Sterling crash
Recession
No trade deals
Exodus from the City
None right there but Remainers are still sure they were right.
“Surely the rest of the Cabinet will have the courage to say enough is enough to the Prime Minister before long.”
It is the Tory backbenchers who will do the deed. BoJo’s obsessive focus on COP26 does not sit well with ordinary people’s experience of crippling energy price spikes. All this talk about bans and extra taxes is not really within the Tory tradition.
Even more serious than that, there is talk of £6 for a pint of beer, and Basildon Man could lose patience. History tells us that Tory backbenchers will do whatever it takes to keep Basildon Man happy. Brexit being a case in point.
There is mention of a snap election in Spring 2022 if the Tory party is to take advantage of a completely lame Labour opposition. The unhealthy obsession with COP26 and expensive bans might be enough to convince Tory backbenchers that this is not a job for BoJo and Numnut.
For one, I remain hopeful.
I agree, Boris needs to be replaced by someone strong minded enough not to be influenced by the ‘green’ madness. 8 years ago he was against wind farms but supported fracking.
Someone has been tampering with his thought processes. We all have an idea of who that could be.
“the Government’s target of 440,000 (green jobs) by 2030″………
…….isn’t it funny that the government never has a target or an estimate of the number of manufacturing jobs that will be lost (largely in the north of England) thanks to the nose bleedingly high cost of said ‘green energy’
Probably 20+ lost for every new ‘green’ one created!
Levelling up?…..Levelling down!………. if you’re lucking
Our new world order – Social Egalitarianism, Globalization, Environmentalism and Social Engineering in the 21st Century . . . We are printing money to make up for what we gave away in the name of Environmentalism and Globalization, to the Third World. Our Economies are slowly dying – Social Elitism is failing. Now the once powerful ‘Home-Grown Unionists’ ARE the down trodden. They paid the price while the Elitist Socio-Economic Wisdom thrives – in the West. Meanwhile China Laughs – All the way to the Bank. Today China alone, processes 60% of Global Base Metals . . . and . . . all the pollution that goes with it. 25 Chinese Cities today, account for 50% of Global CO2 – Out of sight – Out of mind . . . The New World Order . . . just 30 years since China evolved.
Western Elitist Self-Flagellation in the name of Environmentalism maintains Total Global Pollution while stripping the very life blood out of the Western Economies . . . With no End-Gain . . . in Global Terms. Total GLOBAL Pollution remains the same and is rising! But we look sooo good . . . on paper . . . and . . . now, we can point fingers at others . . . Such Hypocrisy . . . All of this primary processing WAS in the Western countries.
Power is finally where it needed to be. In the hands of people who had been trained to look out for the good of one and all, even if that meant it would cost the Western Economically Endowed a little more of their Fiefdoms . . . Everyone is on board with that! Beneath it all, economic forces have been evolving throughout the nations of the World. Private sector Unions had largely been ‘Defanged’. A relative peace among Industrialists and Wage Earners has come to pass. Vertical Integration among industry types is ‘The New Way’ and global reach has come to industries of every stripe. The Iron Curtains are gone and China trades with the World. Costs are down, profits are up and the well-placed intellectuals are in power to hold sway, what more could a Capitalist ask for?
Populism – The voice of the people is gone. The once strident Socialist voices ARE the establishment, and yet, the Little People remain Unheard. Economic forces have changed. Things that no one could have seen coming have come to pass. Rules of engagement have evolved, life in Western Economies have been rearranged without notice from our new Egalitarian Elite. Jobs once deemed menial were now gone to any number of Nations of the World where workers are plentiful and wages are sub-par. Globalization is the New World Order
Environmentalism has left its mark. Strident voices have long decried the disgusting atmospheric and terrestrial conditions created by primary industries. Laws were passed and penalties would be paid, or industries would be Shut Down. Results were attained, the skies cleared, industries complied. However, that production had just quietly moved to Third World countries, below the radar. Now they are beyond the reach of law makers at home like the EPA, Cap & Trade or Environment Canada. The Environmental Movement celebrated their apparent successes. No stone was left unturned in Championing Environmental Causes. Unmentioned is the fact that industries had moved to countries where supportive regimes and skilled labor were plentiful, un-assailed. Yet again, common people land stranded, Not only without Employment – Now without a Voice . . . This time . . . at the hands of the very Intellectuals that once had so Stridently Championed their cause.
The duty-bound lawmakers in every effort to wisely clean up the World . . . have inadvertently robbed their most strident supporters of their very existence. Those once powerful Union Jobs in some of the most powerful industry groups in the World are gone to third world countries at one quarter the price! Total Union membership today is at its lowest point since collective Bargaining was legalized almost 100 years ago. No concessions were ever considered to save jobs by sharing the costs of Scrubbers and Electrostatic Precipitators to clean up the Pollution. That would have meant lying in bed with the very Industrialists the Egalitarians had so stridently fought against and Defeated. So, the Mills, the Mines, the Production of Widgets and the purveyors of human usury were shut down. All hail the Champions of the Underdog, the Down Trodden and Society’s Victims. As for the Industrialists, more money can be made abroad, with less effort, in Autocratic Regimes. Supported by Globalization, Environmentalism and Social Engineering for the 21st Century. How Ironic !
Bring out the Tumbrils!!
See here…
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/10/20/how-environmentalism-turned-politics-on-its-head/
Questions for Boris Symonds:
How many green jobs are there in solar panel factories in the UK?
How many green jobs are there in wind turbine pylon factories in the UK?
Answer came there none. Or “None”.
All these new employment opportunities will involve installing “stuff” that has been carted half way round the world to reach us.
Perhaps after Flop26 is done and dusted sanity might return starting with the reversal of recent oil exploration permit decisions.
The loss of jobs in the ICE automotive industry, including the second and third tier suppliers will be the order of 500,000 persons. (The total employed in automotive is 800,000, I assume about 300,000 will end up making BEV’s). Big Loss.
This is much like the “Globalization” effort that was suppose to upgrade workers who lost their ‘menial’ labor jobs to higher paying ‘service’ career jobs. Never happened. All we did was offshore our manufacturing. We/West handed over our technology and how to manage it to China, Vietnam, India, etc. and in return only received less expensive products. Soon there will be few able to buy those less expensive products in the West. And who do you talk to when you want help with your electronics? You know, one of those “career upgrade” promised people? They aren’t the people who lost their manufacturing jobs in the West. All of this is a carefully orchestrated scam to redistribute wealth and lifestyle away from the Western nations who earned it to Marxist/Socialist countries who are stealing it with propaganda. Now they want to completely kill Western manufacturing by controlling the energy required. Prove me wrong.
The dream to de-industrialize the West was one of the primary aims of the UN’s 1992 Rio Environmental Conference:
Quote – ” Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized nations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about? How better to accomplish the collapse then to create mass hysteria proselytized by the willing dupes in our education system that CO2 is going to destroy the world because allegedly it will cause the temperature to go up 3*C”.
Seems it is all going to plan due to the West opting for the impossible Net Zero wet dream.
Meanwhile China, Russia and Asia rub their palms and smile.
Was that a Figueres quote by any chance?
BTW, Paul, I’ve just found out that my link to Figueres famous UN quote about CC being about a revolution and not climate has been disappeared from the UN website, UNRIC.ORG https://unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
Wayback machine?
PS: to my comment about Figueres. If you search her name and ‘first time’ you get a complete hagiography about how Figueres saved the planet from CC!!!! Well worth a look….
PPS: But her quote is still here:
This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.
“This will not happen overnight and it will not happen at a single conference on climate change…It is a process, because of the depth of the transformation.”
From
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/un-s-top-climate-official-goal-intentionally-transform-economic-0
The only problem is that you can redistribute wealth only once. The next time there will be nothing to redistribute. If there is the next time.
The dream is to collapse capitalism. The Left had nowhere to go after the total failure of the USSR exposed socialism for a fraud. Luckily (?) along came Climate Change as a new cause and a new reason for dismantling capitalism.
As I’ve said before, if you could demonstrate that the solution Climate Change was more capitalism, more markets and smaller states, not one of these people would believe in it.
And yet isn’t the “more green jobs” the capitalist notion? After all, they’re not state jobs, but private. Talk about Boris et al being totally muddled!
Surely this quote is from Maurice Strong, the Canadian communist who helped to form the IPCC.
The quote was the Conference chair Maurice Strong. He was right on the button regarding Academia useful idiots.
Exactly !!
Globalization and Environmentalism have destroyed the economies of the west . . .
Now, we print money to ‘bring on the fix’ . . .
There are none so blind as those who will not see . . .
markl
The last 30 years of actual observed events (rather than model projections) all-but prove your case.
Western and European global GDP share has collapsed as Chinese, Far Eastern and Indian economies have grown. By rigging energy and economic costs which make the West less competitive that wealth transfer process is only going to continue.
Globalists are onside for wealth redistribution in the same way pro-EU fanatics were OK with UK losing huge tranches of wealth and work to the EU, eg fishing, manufacturing, steel etc, ‘for the greater good’.
They also usually happen to be financially comfortable, often on the back of being well-paid to enforce the new globalist rules.
Where the heck our internal political pushback against this nonsense is coming from, I don’t know.
Share of GDP is meaningless. GDP per capita is what counts. Western GDP per capita is struggling to grow much (mainly thanks to excessive state intervention) but is still multiples of that in China.
But it did happen. Rather obviously. We sent low skilled, low value manufacturing abroad and so by value manufacturing is now worth far more than it was. And the value of services has grown vastly with millions more people – particularly women – now employed.
I really don’t know where people get these fake facts from?
As for less expensive products being bad, that’s the same as an increase in income. I don’t care what I am paid. I care what that buys me. Tens of millions of people are much better off in the UK as a result. That’s why most have colour TVs, computers, smart phones, decent cars, dishwashers and microwaves. And a £1 trillion/year state. Weird for a country that is in such a bad economic state with no decent jobs.
“Recycling Workers”
Those will be minimum wage slaves, sorting crap on a conveyor belt?
Recycling, that probably uses as much resource & energy than making something new, if not more.
Ive seen how people work in ‘recycling centres’. It’s basically sorting though peoples rubbish in disgusting working conditions. Is it any wonder no one wants to do it? we should build more incinerator plants and burn the lot.
Green jobs are a cost, not a benefit.
A proven outcome.
All this was predicted on here months and years ago. Green jobs are either normal jobs redefined or more likely nonsense jobs we don’t need, because they cost 2-3 real jobs.
Christ this government is hard work.
Head honchos on the ‘Green Job’ list appear to be ‘recycling workers’. When I was a lad we used to call them ‘bin men’ or ‘tip men’ from the local dump. The jobs don’t seem to have changed that much since climate change became a thing, just the job titles and the ‘little Hitler’ complexes of many of the staff running the nation’s rubbish collection systems. Now if we took these employees out of the mix, plus the legions of bureaucrats who supervise them, I think that we’ll find that the numbers employed in actual commercial ‘recycling’, as the average man in the street would understand the term, are relatively paltry.
‘Ministers have announced sweeping new targets for homes and vehicles in a bid to reach its net zero commitments’
There’s that ‘targets’ again. A reification fallacy.
Are real assets & production being increased? I can build then bulldoze then build again the same house several times to create jobs & boost GDP, but at the end I still only have 1 house. What real benefits are achieved by removing gas boilers to replace with electric heaters? you get the same number of heaters. It does take a bigger picture, a more complicated analysis to understand all the costs, benefits, disadvantages & risks. YMMV.
Spending a million or billion or trillion, how much money stays in the country (local jobs) vs manufactured overseas (overseas jobs)? Why should any country waste it’s money to support jobs in other countries that don’t pay taxes in the country that’s paying? I don’t think the “creates ### jobs” analysis distinguishes years of work, average pay or between local & overseas jobs. It sounds great for the headlines & politicians but lacks the details.
Most of these ” new green jobs” existed before they were reclassified as green – rubbish disposal, recycling, bicycle repair etc.
Of the rest, many are made up make work look green type which accomplish no real productive end.
No doubt BoJo will count as “Green” jobs all those on the cruise liner that has just docked in Glascow to accommodate “NOTMUCHCOP26” delegates fo the duration – complete and utter lunacy!!!!
The highest paid job is “Sustainability Consultant”. Says it all really.
Meanwhile, Nature does her own thing:
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/october-2021-enso-update-la-niña-here
Before we get to installers, we will need the qualified people to train them and before we get there we will need the people to educate the qualified people … Not going to happen any time soon. It’ll be a cowboys charter.
Look at the 20 countries not taking part in COP26. Hence it will be a failure, but BoJo will survive by blaming the 20 – and especially China – for the failure, as opposed to any flaw in the argument about an imminent catastrophe…