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Michael Kelly: The green energy Net Zero plan will require a command economy

October 13, 2023

By Paul Homewood

 

 

Imagine the USA in 2050 has a net-zero emissions economy, as President Joe Biden has pledged that it will (the UK is also committed to this).

Three very large, interrelated, and multidisciplinary engineering projects will need to have been completed. Transport will have been electrified. Industrial and domestic heat will have been electrified. The electricity sector – generation, transmission and distribution – will have been greatly expanded in order to cope with the first two projects, and will have ceased to use fossil fuels.
I have had a long career in industrial and academic engineering, and recently retired as Professor of Technology in electrical engineering at Cambridge University. I’ve spent some time looking into the feasibility of these ideas, and these are the facts.

At the moment the USA uses on average 7,768 trillion British Thermal Units of energy every month, most of which is supplied by burning fossil fuel either directly for heat or transport, or indirectly to generate electricity.
Because an internal combustion engine converts the energy stored in its fuel into transport motion with an efficiency of about 30 per cent, while electric motors are more than 90 per cent efficient at using energy stored in a battery, we will need to increase the US electricity supply by about 25 per cent to maintain transport in the USA at today’s level. Let’s assume that replacing today’s fossil-powered vehicles and trains with electric ones will cost no more than we would have spent replacing them anyway: it’s not really true but the difference is small compared to the rest of this. I should note however that a small part of today’s transport energy is used for aviation and shipping, which are much harder to electrify than ground transport, but we’ll ignore that for now.

Next we need to electrify all the heat. If this heat was provided by ordinary electric heaters, we would need an extra electrical sector equal to the size of today’s. But if we mostly use air-source and ground-source heat pumps, and assume a coefficient of performance of 3:1 – optimistic, but not wildly unreasonable – then we only need new grid capacity equivalent to 35 per cent of the size of the present grid for the heat task.

So far, the grid in 2050 will need to be more than 60 per cent bigger than its present size. We also need to work on the buildings. US building stock is made up of nearly 150 million housing units, commercial and industrial buildings, with an estimated floor space of 367 billion square feet. Some of this is well insulated, much of it is not. All of it would need to be, for our heat pumps to work at the efficiencies we need them to. Based on a UK pilot retrofit programme the national scale cost for this is $1 trillion per 15 million population. The figure in the USA could therefore be about $20 trillion. It might be as high as $35 trillion.

We should note here that as with transport, some specialist types of heating cannot at the moment be done electrically, for instance in primary steel production. These will involve extra costs if net zero is to be reached, but we’ll ignore that for now, even though we’re going to need an awful lot of steel.
Now let’s get the power grid decarbonised and make it 60 per cent bigger and more powerful. Taken together, the US electrical grid has been called the largest machine in the world: 200,000 miles of high-voltage transmission lines and 5.5 million miles of local distribution ones. We will need to add a further 120,000 miles of transmission line. This will cost on the order of $0.6 trillion, based on US cost data.

The 5.5 million miles of local distribution lines will have to be upgraded to carry much higher currents. Most houses in the USA have a main circuit-breaker panel that allows between 100 and 200 amps (A) current into the house, although some new ones are rated at 300A. The 100A standard was set nearly a century ago, when the electric kettle was the largest single appliance. In a modern all-electric home, some of the new appliances draw rather higher currents: ground-source heat pumps may draw 85A on start-up, radiant hobs when starting up draw 37A, fast chargers for electric vehicles draw 46A, and even slow ones may draw 17A, while electric showers draw 46A. The local wiring in streets and local transformers were all sized to the 100-A limit. Most homes will need an upgraded circuit breaker panel and at least some rewiring, and much local wiring and many local substations will need upsizing. The UK costs have been estimated in detail at £1 trillion, which would scale to the order of $6 trillion on a per-capita basis.

As 60 per cent of the current electrical generation is fossil fuelled, we need to close all the fossil stations down and increase the remaining, non-fossil generation capacity four times over. There isn’t much scope for new hydropower, and so far carbon capture doesn’t exist outside fossil fuel production. Using a mixture of wind (onshore $1600/kW, offshore $6500/kW), solar ($1000/kW at the utility level) and nuclear ($6000/kW), the capital cost of this task alone is around $5 trillion, and we have not dealt with the enormous problem of wind and solar being intermittent.
So far we’re up to $32 trillion as the cost of providing the insulated buildings and the generation, transmission and distribution of electricity in a net-zero world. Although not all borne by households, this figure is of the order of $260,000 per US household.

Now let’s think about intermittency. Sometimes there is no wind and no sunshine, and our largely renewables-driven grid will have no power. Current hydropower storage would run a net-zero grid in the USA for a few hours; current battery capacity could do so for a few minutes. Net-zero advocates often suggest simply building huge amounts of battery storage, but the costs of this are colossal: 80 times as much as the power plants, hundreds of trillions of dollars. And indeed this is simply fantasy as the necessary minerals are not available in anything like the required amounts. If prices climbed, more reserves would become economic – but the prices are already impossibly high.

Straight away, we can see that a net-zero grid with a large proportion of renewables simply cannot be built. But for now let’s just ignore the storage problem and look at some more numbers.
The UK engineering firm Atkins estimates that a $1-billion project in the electrical sector over 30 years needs 24 or more professional, graduate engineers and 100 or more skilled tradespeople for the whole period. Scaling up these figures for the $12 trillion of electricity sector projects just described, we will need 300,000 professional electrical engineers and 1.2 million skilled tradespeople, full time, for the 30 years to 2050 on just this part of the net-zero project. Based on the budget, we might expect the buildings retrofit sector to need a similar workforce of roughly three million people. This is a combined workforce roughly the size of the entire existing construction sector.

Now let’s think about materials. A 600-megawatt (MW) combined-cycle gas turbine (CCGT) needs 300 tonnes of high-performance steels. We would need 360 5-MW wind turbines, each running at an optimistic average 33 per cent efficiency (and a major energy storage facility alongside which we are just ignoring as it would be impossibly expensive) to achieve the same continuous 600-MW supply. In fact, since the life of wind turbines at 25 years is less than half that of CCGT turbines, we would actually need more than 720 of them.
The mass of the nacelle (the turbine at the top of the tower) for a 5-MW wind turbine is comparable to that of a CCGT. Furthermore, the mass of concrete in the plinth of a single CCGT is comparable to the mass of concrete for the foundations of each individual onshore wind turbine, and much smaller than the concrete and ballast for each offshore one. We are going to need enormous amounts of high-energy materials such as steel and concrete: something like a thousand times as much as we need to build CCGT or nuclear powerplants, and renewed more frequently. This vast requirement is probably going to affect prices, both of materials and energy – and not in a good way – but for now we’ll just assume costs remain at something like current levels.

So we can see that the infrastructure parts of the net-zero project which are theoretically possible would cost comfortably in excess of $35 trillion and would require a dedicated and highly skilled workforce comparable to that of the construction sector as well as enormous amounts of materials. Net zero would also require several things which today are completely impossible: scalable non-fossil energy storage, very high temperature electrical industrial processes, serious electrical aviation and shipping. There would also be the matter of decarbonising agriculture. These things, if they can even be achieved, would multiply the cost at least several times over, to more than $100 trillion.

So the real cost of net-zero, or more likely of trying and failing to achieve it, would be similar to – or even more than – total projected US government spending out to 2050. There is no likelihood of that amount of money being diverted from other purposes under anything resembling normal market economics and standards of living.
The idea that net zero can be achieved on the current timelines by any means short of a command economy combined with a drastic decline in standards of living – and several unlikely technological miracles – is a blatant falsehood. The silence of the National Academies and the professional science and engineering bodies about these big picture engineering realities is despicable.
People need to know the realities of net zero.

Michael Kelly is Emeritus Professor of Engineering at the University of Cambridge. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society, of the Royal Academy of Engineering, of the Royal Society of New Zealand, of the Institute of Physics and of the Institution of Engineering and Technology, as well as Senior Member of the Institute of Electronic and Electrical Engineering in the USA. He is a trustees of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.

54 Comments
  1. madmike33 permalink
    October 13, 2023 10:41 am

    The figures are truly staggering and the ruinous efforts to attempt getting to Net Zero would take us back at least 100 years economically. Copied to my MP.

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      October 14, 2023 10:23 pm

      Good, but I’m afraid your MP will either be too ignorant to understand it, or too lazy to read it. He’ll just tell himself “something will come up and technology will make a breakthough”, and carry on supporting net zero.
      I’m afraid some old people will have to die from cold during a power outage before politicians will be forced to face up to their idiocy.

  2. October 13, 2023 10:46 am

    Let’s just settle for coal plants that the Chinese run at a cost of 5 cents per KW Hour.

    • Artyjoke permalink
      October 13, 2023 11:24 am

      The Chinese are realistic and pragmatic and realise that fossil fuels will be necessary for decades to come, however, at the same time they are building world leading wind and solar generation capacity and developing new better battery storage solutions.

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 13, 2023 12:15 pm

        World leading?

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        October 13, 2023 1:30 pm

        China is very happy for the West to believe that they are going to rely on wind and solar and batteries. They are not, because it would be impossible. Chinese use of wind and solar is only a small fraction of their energy use, way behind even the global average, and certainly well below the UK. The problems with relying on intermittent generation become larger and larger the greater their penetration.

        China continues to invest in new fossil fuel capacity and in securing oil, gas and coal supply from around the world. It is happy to see the West destroy its economic competitiveness and to replace it as the colonial power extracting resources. It is also working towards having cost effective nuclear power.

      • Artyjoke permalink
        October 13, 2023 1:32 pm

        China produces more renewable electricity than the next four biggest producers (USA, Brazil, Canada, and India) combined.

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 13, 2023 1:48 pm

        “they are building world leading wind and solar generation capacity and developing new better battery storage solutions.”

        Word salad. Nobody is being led.

      • Artyjoke permalink
        October 13, 2023 1:52 pm

        China is at the top of the table of global renewable energy production, ahead of all the other countries in the World, in a leading position. Meaty enough?

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        October 13, 2023 3:52 pm

        Thing is, Arty, you need to give relevance to China’s size. They need to be World-leaders in everything (except democracy, of course) because they have a huge country and huge population to look after. But in relative terms I doubt they are biggest and best at much. But then, I don’t really care. I hate the idea of carpeting our country with wind and solar – which has more to do with hubris, cod-science and political control of the people.

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 13, 2023 4:04 pm

        So you think “battery storage solutions” is a real thing?

      • Artyjoke permalink
        October 13, 2023 4:09 pm

        The battery running my house right now seems real.

      • October 13, 2023 4:46 pm

        they are building world leading wind and solar generation capacity and developing new better battery storage solutions.

        They are building the wind and solar and batteries to get rich and powerful, selling the unreliables to us, while using reliable coal and other fossil fuels to produce what they sell.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        October 13, 2023 5:10 pm

        “The battery running my house right now seems real.”
        How many weeks of storage does it contain?
        That’s the criterion for grid scale battery storage.

      • Artyjoke permalink
        October 13, 2023 5:14 pm

        Unlimited when the sun is shining during the day.
        Unlimited when it is charged overnight using off-peak electricity.
        This becomes grid scale when lots of households have a battery.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        October 13, 2023 5:35 pm

        Your battery has a very limited capacity. You cannot store more energy in it than that maximum. A Tesla Powerwall can hold about 13.5kWh when new, but you probably shouldn’t charge it much beyond 10kWh if you want it to last. Even if 30 million households had such batteries at an installed cost of over £200bn it wouldn’t even provide enough for half a day of UK summer demand, or just a few hours in winter.

        The Royal Society calculations showed that we would need at least 123TWh of storage. Roughly the same as coverting the global vehicle fleet (about 1.4bn vehicles) to EVs and using their batteries to back up just the UK grid. No driving allowed.

      • Iain Reid permalink
        October 14, 2023 8:01 am

        Artyjoke,

        when you charge your battery at night you are using gas generation, as that is the only source of U.K. generation that reacts to extra load, which your battery is.

      • Artyjoke permalink
        October 14, 2023 9:43 am

        Off-peak good.
        Peak bad.

        Battery is charging from the sun just now.

  3. Mike Jackson permalink
    October 13, 2023 10:56 am

    Every politician in the UK and the US (for starters) should be obliged — at gun point if necessary — to sit down and read this article as often as necessary to make sure they understand it.
    Then they should be obliged to explain why attempting the impossible in the face of unreasoning and meaningless demands based on no scientific evidence whatever makes any sense.

    • Gamecock permalink
      October 13, 2023 11:05 am

      When the goal is to reduce human population by 90%, it makes perfect sense.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        October 13, 2023 3:55 pm

        Yep. They don’t care if it fails: some of them expect it to, I’m sure. The end game is population control and serf-like obedience to the masters.

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        October 13, 2023 9:28 pm

        Forgive my cynicism, Gamecock, but there is as much evidence for a conspiracy to reduce the population by 90% as there is for the claim that CO2 is mainly responsible for climate change.
        There is no excuse for touting these conspiracy theories if only because the more we do the more we play into the hands of those who do have some such ideas in mind.

      • M E Emberson permalink
        October 13, 2023 10:07 pm

        A typical product, I’m sorry to say, of Internet Conspiracy theories.
        Newspapers used to provide the same wild deductions.
        Where this one originates is no clear but it is popular among fringe political groups. Unfortunately there are quite a few politicians who use this kind of thinking. Voting Day New Zealand October 14th so we’ve had a lot of it here in the run up

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 13, 2023 11:05 pm

        “Forgive my cynicism, Gamecock”

        Gamecock loves cynicism, so thanks!

        “but there is as much evidence for a conspiracy to reduce the population by 90% as there is for the claim that CO2 is mainly responsible for climate change”

        Exhibit A: Klaus Schwab.

        Exhibit B:

        https://reason.com/2006/04/03/to-save-the-planet-kill-90-per/

        This is from nearly 20 years ago.

        “but there is as much evidence for a conspiracy”

        You simply aren’t paying attention.

        “There is no excuse for touting these conspiracy theories”

        Ahhh . . . the Leftard “conspiracy theories!”

        A meaningless pejorative. How does this “conspiracy theory” differ from other theories? YOU DISAPPROVE OF IT. That’s all it means.

        https://shop.babylonbee.com/products/conspiracy-theory-t-shirt

        “if only because the more we do the more we play into the hands of those who do have some such ideas in mind”

        Lame argument.

  4. Realist permalink
    October 13, 2023 11:01 am

    So why do electric cars have such pathetic ranges?
    What is “efficient” about recharging an electric car three or four times for the same actual use as refilling an ICE ONCE, and of course _each_ of those recharges takes a lot longer than maximum ten minutes for refilling with petrol and diesel.
    >>efficiency of about 30 per cent, while electric motors are more than 90 per cent efficient

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 13, 2023 4:03 pm

      And as I tried to explain to my friend who thought the Merc EV with a 500 mile range was srelt a good buy. All well and good but, having done your (nearly) 500 mile journey how long would it take to completely recharge it, especially if you didn’t have access to a fast charger?

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 13, 2023 4:09 pm

        Don’t know anything about a “Merc.” But generally, only 60% of stated ranges are usable. Owners are advised not to charge above 80%, nor to discharge below 20%, for battery longevity. Full range is usable, but not advised.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        October 14, 2023 8:01 am

        And it’s not actually that and it’s drastically reduced if you use a heater, AC or windscreen wipers!

    • Iain Reid permalink
      October 14, 2023 8:05 am

      Realist,

      you cannot compare the efficiency of an electric motor to that of an internal combustion engine, it is a false assumption as el;ectricity is not energy, merely an energy carrier.
      You have to look at how much energy is required to produce that electricity and you will probably be surprised at how much fuel is required to give a Kilowatt hour used by the consumer. Electricty is not efficient but very convenient.

  5. Gamecock permalink
    October 13, 2023 11:04 am

    ‘drastic decline in standards of living’

    Living? A radical assumption by Dr Kelly.

    Bond: “Do you expect me to talk?”

    Goldfinger: “No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die.”

    The Greens can’t say the quiet part out loud.

  6. liardetg permalink
    October 13, 2023 11:25 am

    Yes, you are quite right about that narrow area of Net Zero. ‘Ignore aviation?’ Rivers of CO2. Agriculture? Shipping? What is to be done about mining the battery materials for the large articulated lorries that infest every state? And what about the need for extra vehicles because of battery load? I could go on for ever. We need a bit of science to explode the CO2 GHG myth. Then we can all grow up

  7. October 13, 2023 11:33 am

    Woke up to Fake News on the TalkTV new sticker
    Now I see that all UK MSM are like Pravda as they parrot the same false green PR line
    “Up to 1.5 million UK properties face an increased risk of flooding by 2080 because of rising seas triggered by melting Arctic sea ice, MPs have found”

    Archimedes debunk is about 2,500 years old

    • October 13, 2023 11:33 am

      news ticker

    • In The Real World permalink
      October 13, 2023 11:53 am

      Yes , I saw that story in my local area newspaper .
      Sent in a comment about it being physically impossible . Comment was on site for a few minutes then got removed .

      Have noticed that a lot of those type of propaganda articles come from a site called P A NEWS Agency , which might stand for PRAVDA Again , or PROPAGANDA Always . But are always pushing the Green Loony lies .

      • October 13, 2023 1:10 pm

        Today’s news articles do get into the real phenomenon of albedo effect
        This is not normally mentioned with sea ice melting
        cos it seems so tiny compared to an effect on land..
        It’s not the same as painting a red roof white
        cos in the Arctic ocean you are dealing with moving waves, low level mist, clouds etc. and the fact that melting only takes place when a temperature crosses to become above zero
        Like in the Antarctic most areas never get above zero

    • Gamecock permalink
      October 13, 2023 12:19 pm

      “face an increased risk of flooding by 2080”

      Gamecock isn’t skeert . . . he’ll be dead before then.

      Cirrusly? Trying to scare us with something generations out?

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 13, 2023 4:09 pm

      Stew, when I read that piece that claimed MPs believe sea ice will raise sea levels I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry – both emotions reflecting my utter contempt for them.

  8. October 13, 2023 11:56 am

    Slightly off topic but is Bill Gates waking up to alarmism?

    From Fortune: “There’s a lot of climate exaggeration,” said Gates, who founded Microsoft and is now a philanthropist. “The climate is not the end of the planet. So the planet is going to be fine.”

    The world will not be able to meet its agreed-upon goal to limit future warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial temperatures, but it won’t hit the 3-degree Celsius mark either, said Gates, who is not a climate scientist.
    —–
    They added the “not a climate scientist” bit.

    https://fortune.com/2023/09/20/bill-gates-climate-exaggeration-bloomberg-prince-william-earthshot/?itm_source=parsely-api

  9. Jack Broughton permalink
    October 13, 2023 12:50 pm

    This clever simplification of the big issues is reminiscent of David MacKay’s book Sustainable Energy – Without the Hot Air in 2015. No one in power took any notice of this, will they take note this time???

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      October 13, 2023 1:38 pm

      It will probably take pitchforks and torches at least. But even the Dutch BBB farmers’ party seems to have had its day in the sun for now.

  10. It doesn't add up... permalink
    October 13, 2023 1:53 pm

    Never mind acts of charity. The CoE has £30m to blow on its new green god.

    Holy Green: Church of England commits £30m for low carbon upgrades

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 14, 2023 8:02 am

      Much better to spend it on that than the poor and needy.

  11. Thomas Carr permalink
    October 13, 2023 2:04 pm

    Another “slightly off topic ” to relish.
    The oaty milk industry has taken a double page spread in today’s The Times to challenge the farmers to say what pollution they defend when compared with the virtuous oaty milk industry. The oaty milkers should be pursued under the Trades Description Act for claiming that their product is milk. More like watery starch it seems to me.

    • nevis52 permalink
      October 14, 2023 10:31 am

      This is scandalous as there is a negligible amount of methane in the atmosphere. I have never tasted oaty milk and don’t intend to, but I am sure you are right.

  12. October 13, 2023 3:46 pm

    “Most homes will need an upgraded circuit breaker panel and at least some rewiring, and much local wiring and many local substations will need upsizing.”. And the volume and cost of the copper supply for the cabling required for that?

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 14, 2023 8:05 am

      I assume all the calculations are done at current (ha!) prices for commodities, but that’s unrealistic. It takes years to bring new mines on stream and all new mines have lower grades and/or harder metallurgy than existing ones. Prices will rise substantially.

  13. October 13, 2023 4:23 pm

    The real irony in all of this is that there is still no concrete evidence that any of these measures will have any realistic impact on the climate.

    • Gamecock permalink
      October 13, 2023 5:08 pm

      . . . and the goal is to keep Britain from warming!

      Hilarious!

  14. devonblueboy permalink
    October 13, 2023 6:23 pm

    But who needs evidence when we have all these computer models?

    • October 13, 2023 8:36 pm

      The old bandit logic – ‘we don’t need no steenking…badges data’.

  15. John Brown permalink
    October 13, 2023 6:52 pm

    Professor Michael Kelly : “The idea that net zero can be achieved on the current timelines by any means short of a command economy combined with a drastic decline in standards of living – and several unlikely technological miracles – is a blatant falsehood.”

    I’m afraid that Professor Kelly has it all the wrong way round :

    Net Zero is not the goal. The goal is the command economy combined with a drastic decline in living standards and Net Zero, which they know is impossible, has been invented to “solve” the false science of CAGW that burning hydrocarbon fuels and increasing atmospheric CO2 will mean the end of the planet and all life.

  16. MACK permalink
    October 14, 2023 7:24 am

    And keep in mind a million seconds is about 11 days, a billion seconds is about 31 years, and a trillion seconds is over 31,000 years.

  17. lordelate permalink
    October 15, 2023 8:38 am

    We seem to have been infiltrated by a troll from the gruaniad!
    Battery storage? EV’s currently seem to be proving that as a futile technology. Although I suppose it might keep your house warm for a while once alight.

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